We cant, only impl+api are certified so no issue ;) Le mer. 4 sept. 2019 à 17:01, Jean-Louis Monteiro <jlmonte...@tomitribe.com> a écrit :
> I'd like to certify some of them if possible of course. > > Le mer. 4 sept. 2019 à 15:33, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> > a écrit : > >> Not sure I'm following Mark, EPL is fine for us ( >> https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html) and G spec jars are not >> officially certified so don't change of license anytime. >> >> Romain Manni-Bucau >> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog >> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog >> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github < >> https://github.com/rmannibucau> | >> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book >> < >> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance >> > >> >> >> Le mer. 4 sept. 2019 à 15:07, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> a écrit : >> >> > No, before that it was CDDL+GPL. It just moved to EPL, which is also >> CatB >> > >> > LieGrue, >> > strub >> > >> > > Am 04.09.2019 um 15:06 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau < >> rmannibu...@gmail.com >> > >: >> > > >> > > @Mark: didn't change with jakarta donation? can you open a ticket on >> > > jakartee tracker please? >> > > >> > > Romain Manni-Bucau >> > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog >> > > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog >> > > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github < >> > https://github.com/rmannibucau> | >> > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book >> > > < >> > >> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Le mer. 4 sept. 2019 à 15:04, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> a >> écrit >> > : >> > > >> > >> No, this is an intended situation. >> > >> When one fully passes the TCK then you get the EFSL. This 'removes' >> the >> > >> copyleft nature of the EPL. >> > >> The details are quite nested in the legal papers, but that's it >> > basically. >> > >> >> > >> If we just upgrade our existing API to be binary compat then we have >> no >> > IP >> > >> issues. >> > >> >> > >> LieGrue, >> > >> strub >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>> Am 03.09.2019 um 16:37 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau < >> > rmannibu...@gmail.com >> > >>> : >> > >>> >> > >>> MP license is ok (Apache2) but Jakarta is EPLs so keeps the >> ambiguity >> > >> for us. >> > >>> That said it is good to reuse the same GAV for end users so we might >> > ask >> > >> jakarta to double license its api jars? >> > >>> >> > >>> Romain Manni-Bucau >> > >>> @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | Book >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> Le mar. 3 sept. 2019 à 16:33, Jean-Louis Monteiro < >> > >> jlmonte...@tomitribe.com> a écrit : >> > >>> Yep that was the point. >> > >>> So I was asking if we should do the same yes or not. >> > >>> >> > >>> That seems to be your opinion Romain. >> > >>> Mark on the other end is having some doubts about the license. >> > >>> -- >> > >>> Jean-Louis Monteiro >> > >>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro >> > >>> http://www.tomitribe.com >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 4:31 PM Romain Manni-Bucau < >> > rmannibu...@gmail.com> >> > >> wrote: >> > >>> Le mar. 3 sept. 2019 à 16:29, Jean-Louis Monteiro < >> > >> jlmonte...@tomitribe.com> >> > >>> a écrit : >> > >>> >> > >>>> Thanks Romain. I'm fine with using Eclipse jars if from a legal >> point >> > >> of >> > >>>> view, it works. >> > >>>> Otherwise, I'd like to split our spec jars. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> What about MicroProfile? >> > >>>> >> > >>> >> > >>> We already agreed to not redo the API and use microprofile jars. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>>> It's the same license and we are using them in our MicroProfile >> > >>>> implementations. >> > >>>> -- >> > >>>> Jean-Louis Monteiro >> > >>>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro >> > >>>> http://www.tomitribe.com >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 4:26 PM Mark Struberg >> > <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid >> > >>> >> > >>>> wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> depends what their license is. EPL is (weak) copyleft. Thus I >> would >> > >> like >> > >>>>> to avoid exposing it downstream as api. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> LieGrue, >> > >>>>> strub >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>>> Am 03.09.2019 um 16:20 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau < >> > >>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com>: >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> If we still can't reuse jakata artifacts (their license is ok and >> > >> there >> > >>>>> is >> > >>>>>> no impl reference inside so we should just use them, right?) it >> > >> sounds >> > >>>>>> natural >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau >> > >>>>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog >> > >>>>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog >> > >>>>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github < >> > >>>>> https://github.com/rmannibucau> | >> > >>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book >> > >>>>>> < >> > >>>>> >> > >> >> > >> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> Le mar. 3 sept. 2019 à 16:18, Jean-Louis Monteiro < >> > >>>>> jlmonte...@tomitribe.com> >> > >>>>>> a écrit : >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Hi all, >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> I was digging into some other specifications and see what would >> > >> pass >> > >>>>>>> Jakarta TCK and realized that geronimo-security_1.0_spec content >> > >>>>> actually >> > >>>>>>> mixes 2 specifications. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/security-api >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> and >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jaspic >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> I thought the initial intent was to create a specific artifact >> per >> > >>>>>>> specification. >> > >>>>>>> Mixing them is a bit annoying from a certification perspective. >> > >>>>>>> It's also not clean because in Tomcat for instance, there is >> > >> already >> > >>>>>>> jaspic API so it becomes a duplicate. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Would it be possible to split them up in 2 artifacts? >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>>> Jean-Louis Monteiro >> > >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro >> > >>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >
