Right, because the issue is not people having migrated but people migrating
when jakarta releases are available so think you are right, it covers
something like 0 user ;)

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Le mer. 25 mai 2022 à 09:56, Zowalla, Richard <
richard.zowa...@hs-heilbronn.de> a écrit :

> Hi,
>
> JL wrote "Meanwhile, I'd create an issue on the TCK + Spec" in another
> mail and as I want to learn something about the involved workflows /
> processes (sorry - never had to deal with it):
>
> - What would we need to do to challenge the TCK + Spec in this regard?
> - Who can do this - I assume it is vendor-driven, so PMC?
> - Is it something super time consuming?
> - Is it opening an issue and writing some elaborated text explaining
> the situation / unclarity?
>
> I guess, that the user community who already migrated to jakarta.*
> isn't that big at the moment (my assumption), so perhaps there is
> enought time to open a challenge and clarify the situation. If users
> complain, we can go still do a "bug" fix release?
>
> Gruß
> Richard
>
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, dem 25.05.2022 um 09:03 +0200 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau:
> > Hi
> >
> > The small notes on that are:
> >
> > - rare impl actually do (asf ones but also other vendors), it is
> > always a compromise between users/customers/consumers and specs
> > - there is always a blurry line on some defaults (trivial example is
> > default impl or provider impl even when defined in spec)
> > - another blurry line is for libs vs distros
> >
> > So overall we are still free to choose in most cases even if we
> > should tend to what you described.
> >
> > Side note: I dont want to emphasize the disrespect of that rule but
> > the fact *we* must choose at the end.
> >
> >
> > Le mer. 25 mai 2022 à 03:20, David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com>
> > a écrit :
> > > > On May 24, 2022, at 6:14 PM, David Blevins <
> > > david.blev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You could have flags that enabled non-compliant behavior, but
> > > they would have to be off by default and require user action to
> > > turn them on.
> > >
> > > To be clear I could have used a better word than "flags."  You can
> > > have any means you like to enable non-compliant behavior such as
> > > annotations, alternate jars, etc.  Anything that must be done
> > > explicitly by a user to put themselves knowingly in a non-compliant
> > > state.
> > >
> > >
> > > -David
> > >
>

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