Before moving it to GitHub, I would say let's give a chance. I am moving out from current job and I have plenty of time to contribute and promote gossip to forum in india.
Happy to know your thoughts. -1 from me. On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 10:21 PM Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> wrote: > Hey Ed, > > I think taking Gossip back to Github is the right decision. The > Incubator is designed to support, long-running, low-activity projects > like you outline. The regular reports on progress become a time-sink > because there isn't the expected level of volume or participants. > > The incubator works well when there is an established community of folks > who are active. Like you say, this otherwise becomes a burden on you > (the sole contributor, best as I can see), taking your time away from > actually producing software. > > +1 from me > > On 7/5/18 9:18 AM, Edward Capriolo wrote: > > All, > > > > It was a sizable effort moving everything Gossip into the incubator. > Thank > > you all for your help along the way. Recently activity has slowed down, > > much of this falls on me. > > > > My opinion is gossip would be much better off moving back to github and > be > > independently hosted (by me or someone else) I believe for the following > > reasons: > > > > Infrastructure: > > > > AAA > > I forgot my password and when I clicked the "FORGOT MY PASSWORD" link I > got > > back a PGP email. No instructions in the email, lol city. I had to google > > around ASFs site to try to figure out what to do. Try googling 'pgp lost > > password' on apache's docs and figuring out what you need to do. > > > > Releases: > > The release process for most Java projects using maven 'mvn release:clean > > && mvn release:prepare && mvn release:perform". Hosting is free and sign > up > > takes less then a day. Apache incubator wants to see releases as a sign > of > > health, yet the release process is involved. We have to do the maven > steps, > > generate an email with the checksums of all critical files, post a vote > on > > the incubator list, release the artifacts to central, and copy them to an > > svn directory. > > > > That is a vote across 2 mailing lists. and all the maven steps, and other > > manual steps, and that does not even count getting the website changed. > For > > me what is a 5 minute thing turns into a days long process. The net > result > > is we have features in trunk not in the release because doing a release > is > > just a drag. No one is even half interested in taking on this process > and I > > only did it because it is the only way. > > > > Community: > > Apache incubator is about building communities. > > Mailing list > > The mailing list is fairly opaque to me. I am sure there is some way to > > figure out what the subscriber base is but I don't know it. > > > > Jira > > Jira is great tool but the implementation slows people down. New users > have > > to sign up, and they are unable to assign themselves tickets until I > > navigate into JIRA and add them to a group. With open source and > attracting > > contributors it helps to be able to strike while the iron is hot. Having > > users confused as to weather they can start on a task does not help with > > that. > > > > GIT > > Apache has git but not github is only a mirror. When I have to merge > > peoples stuff I have to do it by hand with git commands. (No squash and > > merge button) > > > > Updating the site: > > Another series of obscure svn commands, making simple things hard, (much > > like the release process) > > > > Reports > > I get an 4-5 emails at different rates titled "Incubator Report Due" at > > different rates. Only one of them is for this project. We were never > great > > with reports. Almost all the info in the report could be automatically > > generated. We missed a report, we got placed onto a report now do every > > month category. > > > > The last one was due yesterday, sorry I was enjoying a hotdog at a bbq, I > > went to fill it out today and, saw yet another email chain on the > incubator > > list about how Gossip should leave apache. The report is just another > huge > > time suck, the time I spend doing it I could be doing an hour of code > > review. > > > > Even though some things are in the incubator 7 years, and some apache > TLPs > > have no activity Gossip out of the incubator seems to be a constant thing > > for some.... > > > > So lets get out of here. > > >
