Adam Murdoch wrote:


Steve Appling wrote:


Adam Murdoch wrote:


Steve Appling wrote:
I've been playing with the use of the new build task in my company's projects and in gradle's own build. I found a couple of issues that I would like to discuss:

1) The name 'build' unfortunately collides with Project.getBuild() when used unquoted in a build.gradle. Since I think this task will be referred to frequently, we need to resolve this. I really liked 'build' for the task you would use most often :(. Any better ideas for yet another name? Anyone want to support changing the Project.getBuild() method to something else?

This would make sense. What would we call the method?

It's longer, but we could change the interface to BuildInvocation and the method to getBuildInvocation.


We could call it Gradle or GradleInvocation or GradleInstance, and rename what is currently called Gradle to GradleLauncher or GradleExecuter or GradleInvoker or something like that.

Maybe we should call the task something like 'fullbuild' or 'buildall'?

I like leaving the task name as 'build' and renaming the interface to GradleInvocation. Is it OK for me to do this?


2) The build task currently depends on dists. It seemed to make sense at the time to build everything the plugin could. I tried using a more recent version of the trunk to build gradle itself and updated explodedDistBase to depend on 'build' instead of libs.

Why should explodedDistBase depend on build?
It currently depends on libs, but after my recent change that will no longer run the tests or style checks. It seemed to make sense to hook those in by using the build task instead of listing them explicitly.


But the build task doesn't mean run the tests and checks. It means build and test everything. It doesn't make sense for explodedDistBase to depend on build. It's part of the 'build everything' bit.

Ignoring this, why should explodedDistBase depend on test and check? This is introducing exactly the same problem that we're trying to solve with jar and test. I don't think worker tasks like explodedDistBase should impose any lifecycle, by depending on test or check.

I think we want something like:

explodedDistBase dependOn libs
explodedDist dependsOn explodedDistBase + the doc tasks
testedDists dependsOn dists, test, check, integTest

Then, uploadDists, nightlyBuild and developerBuild would dependOn testedDists

We probably want release dependsOn testedDists as well, to make this really explicit.

I'd get rid of install dependsOn integTest. I can't say I've ever wanted to run the tests before installing Gradle.

We should probably get rid of developerBuild, and use build instead, adding build dependsOn integTest.

I agree with you on this.


This caused an indirect circular dependency because the allZip task (of type Zip) dependsOn explodedDist and the JavaPlugin adds all Zip tasks to dists. a) Should build have depended on libs instead? I had wanted to make and test everything in this one task, but perhaps making the other zips is just overkill.

I think build should continue to depend on dists. Having it depend on libs doesn't make sense to me. What does it mean for 'build' to build only part of the project?
I think I could argue either way. If I'm going to use build as my most common task to compile, test, and style check, I might not want to also always take the time to do things like zip up the source.


This is were the 'tested<Thing>' synthetic tasks would be useful. What you're describing above is simply the 'testedJar' task. Being able to execute, or depend on, testedLibs or testedJar or testedMyProductDist, instead of build would provide the building blocks for defining any lifecycle I want.

Also, we don't necessarily need to solve this for every build in the world, provided it's easy to code up the new lifecycle. For example, you could code up the above with:

build.dependsOn = [{ tasks.withType(Jar) }, test, check]

BTW, this is a good example of why we want to keep worker and lifecycle tasks separate. I can safely overwrite the dependencies of the build task, because it contains only lifecycle dependencies. I couldn't do this when jar depended on test, check.


b) Should there be some way for Zip tasks to "opt out" of being included in the dist task. Adding all jars and zips automatically to the libs and dists tasks always seemed easy to use, but I've also always been a little uncomfortable with this.

Any thoughts on why this is? Do you have any examples of why you'd want to exclude an archive?

Well, if explodedDistBase depended on build, this would be one :). I'm not sure that the plugin can assume that every Zip is intended to be part of a distribution. I can see times where you might have zips that are only created as part of preparing for integration tests or other purposes. In the Ant world we have had tasks that just prepared zipped up test systems (captive databases and simulated user files). These were not considered part of the distribution, but were Zip tasks in the project.


Again, the synthetic tasks would help solve this. You can use the testedMyProductZip task to express the above.

This isn't a big issue to me and I'm willing to live with it for now, but I don't think synthetic tasks help with this concern. I have had several cases in the past where build scripts included tasks that zipped things up which were not a part of making a distribution. That's why I have been uncomfortable with the automatic dependency of dists on all Zip tasks.

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Steve Appling
Automated Logic Research Team

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