> On Jun 20, 2025, at 5:28 PM, Paul King <pa...@asert.com.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> We (Groovy as sponsors/mentors) are following the general Incubator
> procedures but updating as needed for Groovy being the sponsor:
>
> https://incubator.apache.org/policy/incubation.html
>
> That document has placeholders in some places, e.g. for disclaimer wording
> it has
>> Apache Podling-Name is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache
> Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the name of Apache TLP sponsor.
>
> So we advised Grails to put "Apache Groovy" in there in place of "the name
> of Apache TLP sponsor".
>
> Other things are hard-coded as per the typical incubator setup, e.g.
> sending certain emails to private@incubator which we adapt to
> private@groovy. This isn't a criticism of that document, it is afterall, an
> incubator policy document accounting for the usual case of incubator as
> sponsor. But where it is an obvious change of incubator => groovy in that
> document, that is what we do.
>
> With regard to moving releases under incubator, for grails, would it
> instead be under groovy since that is where the mentors have access to?
> Does that sound right to you?
That would be ok with ASF Distribution Policy, but the Incubator Clutch
Analysis available here: https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/grails.html and
here: https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/ may not be accurate.
And you’re making me think about another edge case in my VP, Tooling role with
the work I’m supervising with the new Apache Trusted Releases platform.
So for consistency putting the release in incubator makes my life simpler. (I’m
also the last person to do significant work on the clutch analysis.)
Best,
Dave
>
> Cheers, Paul.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 4:11 AM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> I was confused about the location of the second vote due to the
>> sponsorship of Groovy. Such arrangement is rare.
>>
>> https://downloads.apache.org/grails/ is still a problem to be fixed.
>> Non-PMCs should not have top-level positioning in downloads and you must
>> move the release to be under the incubator.
>>
>> Best,
>> Dave
>>
>> On 2025/06/20 18:02:03 Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> Hi -
>>>
>>> Today I noticed grails here: https://downloads.apache.org/grails/
>>>
>>> 1. You voted on two projects at once.
>>> 2. You did not request a second round of votes on
>> gene...@incubator.apache.org
>>> 3. You have misplaced your directories in
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/. These must be inside the incubator
>> directory.
>>>
>>> Please:
>>> Move https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/grails/ to
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/grails/.
>>> Remove the release from
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/grails/ (you can move them
>> back to dist/dev/incubator/grails/.)
>>> Move https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/grails/ to
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/grails/.
>>> Continue with your second round of votes on gene...@incubator.apache.org
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Dave
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