Actually, that's why I asked this question. In my eyes, the maturity of the technology seems like a non-critical issue. Bubble or not, few tech leaders exerts a significant and positive influence on ordinary users. Drill, MPICH2 are a representative example. Competition is also keen between duplicate projects. So, I thought we need to foster the "sub-projects (another ecosystem)" or "oss star" of Hama.
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Yexi Jiang <[email protected]> wrote: > It gives me an impression that hama is rarely mentioned when people talking > about big data computing framework. For example, in one of the keynotes of > KDD 2013 (the most influential conference for data mining), the presenter > introduced the novel big data computing framework. He mentioned hadoop, > storm, spark, graphlab, giraph, but not hama... > > I think make more people know and use hama is also a critical factor to > improve hama, since more users can give us more helpful feedback. Even if > hama is the current best BSP computing framework, it will be beat by others > since they have more users. > > Regards, > Yexi > > > 2013/8/29 Edward J. Yoon <[email protected]> > > > You're right. Thanks all. > > > > -- > > Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon > > @eddieyoon > > > > 2013. 8. 28., 오후 10:09, Yexi Jiang <[email protected]> 작성: > > > > > Mapreduce and BSP are two complemetary computing framework. When facing > > > non-iterative computing, people prefer to mapreduce, when facing > > iterative > > > computing, BSP has its advantage. I agree with Anastasis, we need to > > > attract people who needs iterative computing to use Hama. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Yexi > > > > > > > > > 2013/8/28 andronat_asf <[email protected]> > > > > > >> IMHO BSP can be advertised as a different computing model to > MapReduce, > > >> which means that applications might use BSP as a backbone and you > might > > >> create a different ecosystem around this. You might even get existing > > big > > >> projects (e.g. Hive :P) start working on top of Hama. I think the > first > > >> target should be to convince (some how) the projects that already use > > BSP > > >> under the hood, to use Hama. I think this is the first step to create > a > > >> different ecosystem. > > >> > > >> Kindly, > > >> Anastasis > > >> > > >> On 28 Αυγ 2013, at 11:23 π.μ., Tommaso Teofili < > > [email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> IMHO the only thing that makes sense is the latter. > > >>> Regards, > > >>> Tommaso > > >>> > > >>> 2013/8/28 Edward J. Yoon <[email protected]> > > >>> > > >>>> http://people.apache.org/~edwardyoon/screenshot1.png > > >>>> > > >>>> During drawing the Hadoop ecosystem diagram, one question has > arisen. > > Do > > >>>> you think we can create the another ecosystem around us in the > future? > > >> or > > >>>> should we try to live in harmony with already existing projects in > > >> Hadoop > > >>>> ecosystem? > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon > > >>>> @eddieyoon > > >>>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ------ > > > Yexi Jiang, > > > ECS 251, [email protected] > > > School of Computer and Information Science, > > > Florida International University > > > Homepage: http://users.cis.fiu.edu/~yjian004/ > > > > > > > -- > ------ > Yexi Jiang, > ECS 251, [email protected] > School of Computer and Information Science, > Florida International University > Homepage: http://users.cis.fiu.edu/~yjian004/ > -- Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @eddieyoon
