Morozova, Nadezhda wrote:
Hi,
More responses below.
(-) Renaming "Contribution policy" -> "Contributing" makes the link
vague
+1, but do you think we can say just "Policy"? the page is about several
notions.
(-) Removing subcomponents map from the navigation pane (I use it all
the
time)
+1 agreed to do earlier. Won't keep the classlib status page though -
have a more current wiki instead.
(-) Removing "Source code" link (I use it regularly). And downloads
page is
not
the place I would go to look for a source code repository information.
+1 ok, I see it's a tension point.
(-) Renaming "Mailing lists" -> "Subscribe" ("subscribe" is less
informative)
-1 disagree. I tried to make this group of links more visitor-oriented,
add simple typical action verbs. It seems more important than the
abstract "lists" group.
The problem is that people look for "mailing lists" or "mail lists".
"Subscribe" is just something you do to them. You can also "look at
archives" and "unsubscribe" :)
(-) The section "In the project" has no clearly defined subject and
looks
like
a heap of links randomly collected together.
0. hesitant. I don't know - I've tried to group the links for those
already in the project. The problem with some pages there - they're not
as good as they should be. Suggestions welcome.
(-) Moving "Downloads" from "General" section to "Get involved"
section.
Most
of our users are not going to be involved. They would just want to
download
and
use the JDK/JRE.
Agreed - we want downloads up in General, as when people come to the
project, it's something for everyone, rather than those that are involved.
0. reluctant. I'd prefer to keep General focused on the project, on
people and policy and goals. And I am not sure we have too many users
who want the JDK and won't be involved at all :)
I'm hoping we have *millions* of users who want the JDK and don't want
to be involved. :)
(-) Renaming navigation subsection "Community" -> "Get involved". It
now
duplicates with the page title, and does not provide a logical
explanation
of
what links are listed in the section. "Community" was explaining the
group
of
links better.
0. hesitant. Community is more like people inside, and get involved is
more like resources for people outside. Just my opinion.
Sorry :) I'll have to agree with Salikh (?) - Community includes
everyone, I think.
(+) "JIRA" -> "Submit a bug" ("JIRA" is way too cryptic)
(+) removing "ASF" link
:)
(*) FAQ page looks outdated and needs to be revised (e.g. in response
to
Sun
open-sourcing hotspot etc.)
+1 will file a JIRA..
(*) "Site map" link in the navigation pane deserves a subsection of its
own,
and need not be grouped with any other links.
+1
Cheers,
Nadya
-----Original Message-----
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Salikh Zakirov
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:46 PM
To: dev@harmony.apache.org
Subject: Re: [doc][user experience] minor improvements to website
navigation and content
Morozova, Nadezhda wrote:
Hi all,
I've experimented a bit with our website to improve browsing and make
key pages or ideas stand out more.
See http://people.apache.org/~nadinem/docs/
Sorry, my first response may have been overly emotional.
Here is the detailed list of issues I noticed:
I think the following changes are not good:
(-) Renaming "Contribution policy" -> "Contributing" makes the link
vague
(-) Removing subcomponents map from the navigation pane (I use it all
the
time)
(-) Removing "Source code" link (I use it regularly). And downloads
page is
not
the place I would go to look for a source code repository information.
(-) Renaming "Mailing lists" -> "Subscribe" ("subscribe" is less
informative)
(-) The section "In the project" has no clearly defined subject and
looks
like
a heap of links randomly collected together.
(-) Moving "Downloads" from "General" section to "Get involved"
section.
Most
of our users are not going to be involved. They would just want to
download
and
use the JDK/JRE.
(-) Renaming navigation subsection "Community" -> "Get involved". It
now
duplicates with the page title, and does not provide a logical
explanation
of
what links are listed in the section. "Community" was explaining the
group
of
links better.
The following changes look good to me:
(+) "JIRA" -> "Submit a bug" ("JIRA" is way too cryptic)
(+) removing "ASF" link
The following items need further attention
(*) FAQ page looks outdated and needs to be revised (e.g. in response
to
Sun
open-sourcing hotspot etc.)
(*) "Submit an issue" does not lead to a link submission form, but to a
issue
browser. IMHO, it should be renamed to "issue tracker" or "bug
tracker".
(*) "Site map" link in the navigation pane deserves a subsection of its
own,
and need not be grouped with any other links.