+ Tim On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 12:31 AM, Ed Espino <esp...@apache.org> wrote:
> ASF FTW! > > I know the website code is relatively easy to update. I helped with the > initial software download update to the website. I contributed a very > small change but I did have a very high-level review of the layout several > months ago. > > -=e > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 8:25 AM, Gregory Chase <gch...@pivotal.io> wrote: > > > You can share website code as well as regular code if its under an Apache > > V2 license. > > > > We liked the CouchDB template as a starting point because it is a fairly > > pleasing design, scrolls well for mobile viewing, and looks easy to > > maintain. > > > > -Greg > > > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Ed Espino <esp...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > Ahhh ... that's where it came from. Aside from the content, the layout > is > > > virtually identical between the two projects (Apache CouchDB > > > <http://couchdb.apache.org/> and Apache HAWQ <http://hawq.apache.org/ > >)! > > > > > > -=e > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Greg Chase <g...@gregchase.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > Having helped create the initial HAWQ design, the basic format was > > lifted > > > > from the CouchDB site. For the "More" section, we removed redundant > or > > > > unneeded links, and just left some of the Apache related information. > > > > > > > > Other than the incubator logo and message, I don't know what else is > > > > "required" to keep. However I think they are all "nice to have". > > > > > > > > They don't need to be in their own section. You can always move them > > to > > > > another part oft he page. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:20 AM, Ed Espino <esp...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yandong, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for moving this to the dev list for discussion. Any chance > > Tim > > > is > > > > > a member of the HAWQ dev community? If not, any chance we can > invite > > > him > > > > to > > > > > the discussion. He's one extremely valuable and knowledgeable > > > individual > > > > ( > > > > > https://medium.com/tradecraft-traction/64-people-you- > > > > > should-know-in-design-f28cf3c2cfaa#.gjrsa3av7)! > > > > > > > > > > Again, I do not have much context on the design decisions of the > > > current > > > > > HAWQ website so I might be a bit off with my responses to your > three > > > > items. > > > > > > > > > > 1) Remove 'More...' link and corresponding section > > > > > > > > > > I don't like the idea of removing the "More" section completely. > The > > > > > section points to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) links. Many > > > other > > > > > Apache projects have similar sections. However, they are named > > > > something a > > > > > bit more appropriately than "More". Here are a few examples. > > > > > > > > > > - Menu name: "Apache" (right most top-level menu item) - > > > > > http://cloudstack.apache.org/ <http://cloudstack.apache.org/> > > > > > - Menu name: "Apache Software Foundation" (right most top-level > > menu > > > > > item) - https://accumulo.apache.org/ > > > > > > > > > > Feel free to review additional Apache project home pages ( > > > > > https://projects.apache.org/projects.html) to get a feel for the > > > > > significance of having ASF links (many forms: nav bar, drop-down > > list, > > > > > footer links, etc). > > > > > > > > > > Option: I'd suggest we rename the section from "More" to "Apache" > and > > > > > leave it at the far right end. > > > > > > > > > > 2) Move 'Doc' link to the end of the tab list > > > > > > > > > > If it is moved, I would move it to the menu section just to the > left > > of > > > > > the "More" (hopefully renamed) menu item. > > > > > > > > > > 3) Change 'Source' in download section to a link, instead of using > a > > > big > > > > > blue button. > > > > > > > > > > Even though we have a single download at the current time, as the > > > project > > > > > starts releasing more artifacts (source and binary), it will be > > > important > > > > > for visitors to select different release versions. I believe the > > page > > > is > > > > > designed to support multiple download pages. I'm in favor of > leaving > > > it > > > > as > > > > > is for the time being. > > > > > > > > > > Additional considerations: > > > > > > > > > > - The top-level menu item changes to a drop down menu as the web > > > page > > > > > is resized (mobile device support). If we rename/reposition > items, > > > > this > > > > > would have to be taken into account. See attached screenshots > for > > > > nav bar > > > > > and drop-down menu reference. > > > > > - Similarly, the page flow is consistent with the nav bar menu > > item > > > > > flow. The page may have to be adjusted to account for this. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > -=e > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 11:51 PM, Yandong Yao <y...@pivotal.io> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> +dev@hawq for broader discussion > > > > >> > > > > >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Ed Espino <esp...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Probably helpful to push this to the dev list for discussion on a > > new > > > > >>> thread. I don't have much if any context on the current layout > but > > > > other > > > > >>> dev members might. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I need to remind myself all the time ... we are growing a "dev > > > > >>> community" ... "dev community" ... "dev community" ... "dev > > > community". > > > > >>> Especially as you listed "who could help to make those > changes"? I > > > > believe > > > > >>> any committer in the community is capable of performing this > work ( > > > > >>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-hawq- > site.git > > ). > > > > >>> > > > > >>> -=e > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 11:23 PM, Yandong Yao <y...@pivotal.io> > > > wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> A few comments > > > > >>>> about HAWQ home page > > > > >>>> after talked with Tim > > > > >>>> who is experienced UX guy > > > > >>>> : > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> 1) Remove 'More...' link and corresponding section > > > > >>>> 2) Move 'Doc' link to the end of the tab list > > > > >>>> 3) Change 'Source' in download section to a link, instead of > > using a > > > > >>>> big blue button. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Who could help to make those changes? > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > *Ed Espino* > > > > > *esp...@apache.org <esp...@apache.org>* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > *Ed Espino* > > > *esp...@apache.org <esp...@apache.org>* > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Greg Chase > > > > Product team > > http://www.pivotal.io/big-data > > > > Pivotal Software > > http://www.pivotal.io/ > > > > 650-215-0477 > > @GregChase > > Blog: http://geekmarketing.biz/ > > > > > > -- > *Ed Espino* > *esp...@apache.org <esp...@apache.org>* > -- Best Regards, Yandong
