Folks,

I started the poll on the logging tool for HttpClient 4.x on the user
list. If you feel strongly about a particular option, please make your
opinion known.

Oleg


On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 13:12 +0200, Oleg Kalnichevski wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 11:09 +0100, sebb wrote:
> > On 23/05/2008, Oleg Kalnichevski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > >  We finally need to make a decision on the logging toolkit we are going
> > >  to use in HttpClient 4.0 onwards.
> > 
> > I agree that the decision needs to be final - but first it has to be static 
> > ;-)
> > 
> 
> Right you are ;-)
> 
> 
> > >  http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HTTPCLIENT-416
> > >
> > >  Here's my suggestion about the course of action we should take
> > >
> > >  (1) I'll start a poll on the user list about popular opinion on the
> > >  matter and propose three alternatives:
> > >
> > >   * keeping commons-logging
> > >   * migrating to slf4j
> > >   * migrating to j.u.logging
> > >
> > >  (2) Let the poll run for a week or so and get the users express their
> > >  preferences and opinions.
> > >
> > >  (3) Tally the votes
> > >
> > >  (4) Hold a formal vote on the dev list on two most popular options
> > >
> > >  (5) Make a decision and stick to it
> > >
> > >  Any objections to that?
> > 
> > My view is if it ain't broke, don't fix it - the corolllary is that
> > the poll needs to ask for specific reasons why a change would be an
> > improvement, not just a popularity contest of the logging systems,
> > because that tends to be influenced by what one is used to.
> > 
> 
> The trouble is enough people out there who think commons-logging is, at
> least partially, broken, especially for web apps (option I tend to
> share). As far as I know (I may be wrong, though) commons-logging
> development seems stagnant and there is little hope of any further
> releases.    
> 
> Last time we had a pretty unexpected results with the poll on Java 1.5
> compatibility. All I am saying let's discuss our options for the _very_
> last time, and on the user list. In order to have some sort of measure
> of what people think on the subject this should be held in a form of a
> poll. It does not mean we have to automatically take the option with a
> simple majority of votes, but it would be wrong to not take it into
> account.
> 
> Oleg
> 
> > >  Evil Comrade Oleg
> > >
> > >
> > >
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