On Sun, Aug 2, 2026 at 10:37 AM Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> What is the intended relationship between
> TlsCiphers.isH2Blacklisted(String) and isWeak(String)?
>
> I was expecting this to pass but it doesn't because it IMO
> "blacklisted" is stronger than "weak":

What's below is in
https://github.com/apache/httpcomponents-core/pull/686 as a disabled
test.

Gary

>
> diff --git 
> a/httpcore5/src/main/java/org/apache/hc/core5/http/ssl/TlsCiphers.java
> b/httpcore5/src/main/java/org/apache/hc/core5/http/ssl/TlsCiphers.java
> index 140f925..803514f 100644
> --- a/httpcore5/src/main/java/org/apache/hc/core5/http/ssl/TlsCiphers.java
> +++ b/httpcore5/src/main/java/org/apache/hc/core5/http/ssl/TlsCiphers.java
> @@ -371,4 +371,8 @@ public static boolean isWeak(final String cipherSuite) {
>          return !enabledCiphers.isEmpty() ? enabledCiphers.toArray(new
> String[0]) : ciphers;
>      }
>
> +    static Set<String> getH2Blacklisted() {
> +        return H2_BLACKLISTED;
> +    }
> +
>  }
> diff --git 
> a/httpcore5/src/test/java/org/apache/hc/core5/http/ssl/TestTlsCiphers.java
> b/httpcore5/src/test/java/org/apache/hc/core5/http/ssl/TestTlsCiphers.java
> index f2c1929..0a3bafa 100644
> --- a/httpcore5/src/test/java/org/apache/hc/core5/http/ssl/TestTlsCiphers.java
> +++ b/httpcore5/src/test/java/org/apache/hc/core5/http/ssl/TestTlsCiphers.java
> @@ -95,6 +95,15 @@ void testExcludeWeakNull() {
>      }
>
>      @ParameterizedTest
> +    
> @MethodSource("org.apache.hc.core5.http.ssl.TlsCiphers#getH2Blacklisted()")
> +    void testH2BlacklistedIsWeak(final String h2BlacklistedCipherSuite) {
> +        // Sanity assert
> +        
> Assertions.assertTrue(TlsCiphers.isH2Blacklisted(h2BlacklistedCipherSuite),
> h2BlacklistedCipherSuite);
> +        // Test
> +        Assertions.assertTrue(TlsCiphers.isWeak(h2BlacklistedCipherSuite),
> h2BlacklistedCipherSuite);
> +    }
> +
> +    @ParameterizedTest
>      @ValueSource(strings = {
>              "TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384",
>              "TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256",
> @@ -129,4 +138,5 @@ void testWeakCiphersDisabledByDefault(final String
> weakCiphersSuite) {
>          Assertions.assertTrue(TlsCiphers.isWeak(weakCiphersSuite));
>      }
>
> +
>  }
>
> --
> TY,
> Gary
>
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2026 at 9:07 AM Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 2, 2026 at 4:54 AM Oleg Kalnichevski <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, 2026-08-01 at 21:14 -0400, Gary Gregory wrote:
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > Is there anything that we can do in our code to facilitate RFC 10015
> > > > and
> > > > further secure users of HttpClient?
> > > >
> > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc10015.html
> > > >
> > > > Ty,
> > > > Gary
> > >
> > > Hi Gary
> > >
> > > We already have weak cipher exclusion logic, for instance, used to
> > > exclude cipher blacklisted by the HTTP/2 spec.
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/httpcomponents-core/blob/master/httpcore5/src/main/java/org/apache/hc/core5/http/ssl/TlsCiphers.java#L348
> > >
> > > One would have to review the existing implementation and make sure it
> > > conforms to RFC 10015.
> >
> > I'll create a PR...
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > >
> > > Oleg
> > >
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