This project represents thousands of hours of engineering and a
considerable portion of people's professional lives. It is therefore
with a heavy heart that I vote:

+1 [X] Retire Heron from the Incubator

We are the custodians of this codebase, and it is our responsibility
to convey to any potential end-users that it is no longer being
maintained. I wish it could have graduated to a top-level project and
then transitioned to the attic.

On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 10:12 AM Dave Fisher <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> You can do what you want with the Heron software. You cannot use the 
> trademarks Heron nor Apache in the name of your successor version.
>
> Best,
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 6, 2023, at 5:32 AM, Windham Wong <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Apache license do not stop you commercializing the software. Feel free to
> > have a look the license in GitHub, it has a quick helper explain to you.
> >
> >> On Fri, Jan 6, 2023, 20:43 Ron Wilcom <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> ok thank you... so the tech stays 'open source' or can someone claim it
> >> as commercial (and start charging for it?)?
> >>
> >> ------ Original Message ------
> >> From: "Josh Fischer" <[email protected]>
> >> To: "Ron Wilcom" <[email protected]>
> >> Cc: [email protected]
> >> Sent: 1/5/2023 12:05:40 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Retire Heron from the Incubator
> >>
> >>> Retiring a project is specific to retiring a community around the
> >>> project, not necessarily the tech.  The source code will still be
> >>> available publicly [1].  Open source projects need a healthy community to
> >>> survive.  At this point, I do not think that Heron has hardly any
> >> community
> >>> left.
> >>>
> >>> [1]. https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html
> >>>
> >>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:59 AM Ron Wilcom <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> *-1 [X ] Do not retire Heron from the Incubator*
> >>>>
> >>>> What does it even mean to 'retire from the incubator'??  Why isn't this
> >>>> project handed up to Apache open source by now?  I assume the
> >> libraries/etc
> >>>> will still be available if its "retired"??  Projects still use Heron -
> >> I'm
> >>>> fine if no more updates but the libraries should remain available.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ron W
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2023-01-05 11:50, Josh Fischer wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I think it's time to retire Heron from the incubator.  Activity has
> >> been
> >>>> close to non-existent on the mailing list. Also [1] after sending out a
> >>>> [DISCUSS] email on the topic, I received zero replies.
> >>>>
> >>>> The vote is by lazy consensus and runs for 72 hours.
> >>>>
> >>>> +1 [ ] Retire Heron from the Incubator
> >>>> -1 [ ] Do not retire Heron from the Incubator
> >>>>
> >>>> Here is my vote:
> >>>> +1 [x] Retire Heron from the Incubator
> >>>>
> >>>> Josh
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. https://lists.apache.org/thread/lxm0ko3bx0y0xzblcnf2wfkw5lk3m00f
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>

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