I agree, Saad.  This was my first open source project and I sunk a ton of
time into it.

However, it was not for nothing.  I learned a ton about the tech, the
Apache Way and made a few new friends along the way.

I’ll carry this over to [email protected] in a bit.



On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 9:53 AM Saad Ur Rahman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> This project represents thousands of hours of engineering and a
> considerable portion of people's professional lives. It is therefore
> with a heavy heart that I vote:
>
> +1 [X] Retire Heron from the Incubator
>
> We are the custodians of this codebase, and it is our responsibility
> to convey to any potential end-users that it is no longer being
> maintained. I wish it could have graduated to a top-level project and
> then transitioned to the attic.
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 10:12 AM Dave Fisher <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > You can do what you want with the Heron software. You cannot use the
> trademarks Heron nor Apache in the name of your successor version.
> >
> > Best,
> > Dave
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jan 6, 2023, at 5:32 AM, Windham Wong <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Apache license do not stop you commercializing the software. Feel
> free to
> > > have a look the license in GitHub, it has a quick helper explain to
> you.
> > >
> > >> On Fri, Jan 6, 2023, 20:43 Ron Wilcom <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ok thank you... so the tech stays 'open source' or can someone claim
> it
> > >> as commercial (and start charging for it?)?
> > >>
> > >> ------ Original Message ------
> > >> From: "Josh Fischer" <[email protected]>
> > >> To: "Ron Wilcom" <[email protected]>
> > >> Cc: [email protected]
> > >> Sent: 1/5/2023 12:05:40 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Retire Heron from the Incubator
> > >>
> > >>> Retiring a project is specific to retiring a community around the
> > >>> project, not necessarily the tech.  The source code will still be
> > >>> available publicly [1].  Open source projects need a healthy
> community to
> > >>> survive.  At this point, I do not think that Heron has hardly any
> > >> community
> > >>> left.
> > >>>
> > >>> [1]. https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:59 AM Ron Wilcom <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> *-1 [X ] Do not retire Heron from the Incubator*
> > >>>>
> > >>>> What does it even mean to 'retire from the incubator'??  Why isn't
> this
> > >>>> project handed up to Apache open source by now?  I assume the
> > >> libraries/etc
> > >>>> will still be available if its "retired"??  Projects still use
> Heron -
> > >> I'm
> > >>>> fine if no more updates but the libraries should remain available.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ron W
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 2023-01-05 11:50, Josh Fischer wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I think it's time to retire Heron from the incubator.  Activity has
> > >> been
> > >>>> close to non-existent on the mailing list. Also [1] after sending
> out a
> > >>>> [DISCUSS] email on the topic, I received zero replies.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The vote is by lazy consensus and runs for 72 hours.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> +1 [ ] Retire Heron from the Incubator
> > >>>> -1 [ ] Do not retire Heron from the Incubator
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Here is my vote:
> > >>>> +1 [x] Retire Heron from the Incubator
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Josh
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 1. https://lists.apache.org/thread/lxm0ko3bx0y0xzblcnf2wfkw5lk3m00f
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>
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