Sounds good:

  - I think, I'd rather leave out the xml-generation/xslt part and use maven's 
doxia-API directly. The advantage of this is, that the project's site-skin is 
used automatically.

 - Classpath access from maven should be no problem.

 - Contributions from annotated modules will be problematic since I don't think 
building the registry is an option at compile-time (thinking of eager-load 
services trying to connect to resources). Maybe, it's possible to just link to 
the Javadoc of methods annotated with @Contribution .


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Achim Hügen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:30 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: HiveMind Site
> 
> Here is my plan:
> 
> All XML files and the annotated modules are parsed by the 
> hivemind libs.
> This can be executed by calling 
> RegistryBuilder#autoDetectModules or by manually loading the 
> modules like this:
> 
> RegistryDefinition registryDefinition = new RegistryDefinition();
> 
> XmlModuleReader reader = new XmlModuleReader(registryDefinition);
> reader.readClassPathModule("META-INF/hivemodule.xml");
> reader.readClassPathModule("foo/hivemodule2.xml");
> 
> AnnotatedModuleReader reader = new
> AnnotatedModuleReader(registryDefinition);
> reader.readModules("**/*Module.class");
> 
> The resulting RegistryDefinition can be used to iterate over 
> all module definitions, its extension points and extensions.
> (see
> http://hivemind.apache.org/hivemind2/hivemind-framework/apidoc
s/org/apache/hivemind/definition/package-frame.html)
> 
> By iterating over the definitions a DOM tree gets created 
> (like RegistrySerializer does today) and serialized. The 
> resulting XML file does not conform to the hivemind module 
> deployment descriptor schema.
> Finally a stylesheet transformation is applied on it to generate HTML.
> 
> Sounds straightforward but there are some catches:
> 
> * The core framework doesn't know anything about xml.
> As a consequence, the ServicePointDefinition for example 
> doesn't have a schema property (for service factories). But 
> the information can be acquired by casting a service point 
> definition from a xml module to 
> XmlServicePointDefinitionImpl, which gives access to the 
> schema. So the plugin must be aware of the different 
> definition types. In case of configuration points there is an 
> additional layer of indirection in form of ConfigurationParsers.
> * configurations can be of any type and they needn't have an 
> associated schema.
> Question is, how do you represent contributions which are not 
> backed by xml?
> In the case of annotated modules it's not even possible to 
> access the contributed data without constructing the registry.
> * To read the annotated modules with AnnotatedModuleReader 
> the module classes must be loaded. So the classpath must 
> contain all referenced classes.
> Whereas a maven plugin has access to the classpath which was 
> used for compilation and is considered to be complete, hasn't it?
> 
> Achim
> 
> 
> 
> Am Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:50:09 +0200 schrieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > Hi Johan,
> >
> > I think, I used the Apache License - so no problem here.
> >
> > However, I have to blushingly admit, that the hivedoc 
> plugin is quite 
> > a quick hack. So don't expect any clean abstraction from the 
> > xml-Registry-Definition.
> > On the positive side, the code is short and straightforward, so it 
> > shouldn't be really difficult to pull apart the xml-parsing and the 
> > output-generation.
> > Unfortunately, I've not yet had the time to look into the new API.  
> > Basically, one probably needs to search the source-files for 
> > HiveMind-2.0 annotations.
> > This annotation-parsing thing should be common for validator and 
> > hivedoc mojos. The simplest thing might be to generate the good old 
> > xml-registry as a temporary file from the annotations and use it as 
> > input for both tools.
> >
> > Marcus
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Johan Lindquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:04 AM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: HiveMind Site
> >>
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> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> For the verifier mojo, there are no issues - not sure about the 
> >> HiveDoc one - Marcus?
> >>
> >> And yes, HiveMind 2.0 integration should be considered.
> >> verifier should definately be possibly to re-use for XML 
> descriptors 
> >> but it needs to be retrofitted to handle annotated 
> registries.  For 
> >> HiveDoc, I would assume the same thing applies?
> >>
> >> Johan
> >>
> >> Achim Hügen wrote:
> >> > It would be great to add that plugin to the hivemind subversion 
> >> > repository as an additional module.
> >> > Does any licensing issues or copyright speak against it?
> >> >
> >> > BTW, we will have to check how such plugins can be
> >> integrated with the
> >> > HiveMind 2 registry definition API.
> >> >
> >> > Achim
> >> >
> >> > Am Thu, 05 Apr 2007 10:09:17 +0200 schrieb Johan Lindquist
> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > Ok, I will take a look - and file the JIRA.
> >> >
> >> > About the plugin - basically there are two mojos that were
> >> mentioned
> >> > on the list - a hivedoc report plugin (written by Marcus
> >> Schulte) and
> >> > a hivemodule.xml verifier plugin (started by myself).  
> The thoughts 
> >> > were to create one single hivemind plugin with these two
> >> sub-goals (if
> >> > that is the correct wording).  Then of course, any other 
> sub-goals 
> >> > that come along would slot in quite nicely as well.  Makes sense?
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> > Johan
> >> >
> >> > Achim Hügen wrote:
> >> >>>> Your changes are very welcome.
> >> >>>> Please use JIRA for submitting the patches.
> >> >>>> Maybe the IE bug has already been fixed on the tapestry
> >> site where
> >> >>>> I copied the styles from.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Could you give me a short update on the plugin subject?
> >> >>>> Did you create the plugins or who is the owner?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Achim
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Am Tue, 03 Apr 2007 09:42:24 +0200 schrieb Johan Lindquist
> >> >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Hi Achim,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I think misunderstood the problem with the pom - 
> thought it was 
> >> >>>> related to the "root" source repository location as 
> indicated by 
> >> >>>> the project info on the homepage.  Apologies for my
> >> hasty conclusions.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> In any case, I think we all agree that the site should
> >> be updated
> >> >>>> and I understand fully if time prevents this .  And as far as 
> >> >>>> committers go, I guess James is only one still active?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On a different note - looks like the site doesn't 
> work entirely 
> >> >>>> correct on IE (at least for me, the left nav is not
> >> visible in IE -
> >> >>>> firefox works fine) - do you mind if I make one or two
> >> changes to
> >> >>>> the hivemind site project to correct this?  Would you
> >> want another
> >> >>>> JIRA for this to keep track?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> And lastly, was also hoping to incorpororate the 
> Maven Hivemind 
> >> >>>> plugins previously mentioned - module verification and
> >> hivedoc.  Thoughts?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Cheers,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Johan
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Achim Hügen wrote:
> >> >>>>>>> Johan, the bug refered to the HiveMind 2 poms and 
> I fixed it.
> >> >>>>>>> Nevertheless it would be nice if someone could apply
> >> the patches
> >> >>>>>>> to the 1.2 site and release it.
> >> >>>>>>> Unfortunately my time is limited and I focus on
> >> version 2.0 in
> >> >>>>>>> the moment.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Anybody else?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Achim
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Am Mon, 02 Apr 2007 09:17:01 +0200 schrieb Johan Lindquist
> >> >>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Hi All,
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Over the weekend there was a JIRA opened for the 
> SVN links on 
> >> >>>>>>> the HiveMind site.  Looks like the current project 
> info (as 
> >> >>>>>>> generated by
> >> >>>>>>> Maven) uses the site scm URL (someone correct me if I
> >> am wrong)?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Now, to make sure that users don't get confused can I
> >> suggest we
> >> >>>>>>> try to get the updated site up for Hivemind?  The
> >> patch already
> >> >>>>>>> supplied will provide the new look and feel and 
> other updates 
> >> >>>>>>> that the maven build brings.  The 2.0 site should 
> of course 
> >> >>>>>>> still be there but I guess it depends somewhat on how 
> >> >>>>>>> complete the documentation is
> >> - Achim?   If
> >> >>>>>>> there is some work required to complete it, 
> anything someone 
> >> >>>>>>> else can pick up?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> In any case, we should try to clean up the site 
> and make sure 
> >> >>>>>>> links (such as the SCM) works correctly.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Only my two cents worth, but we don't want to confuse
> >> the users
> >> >>>>>>> further by having the (so far very good) 
> documentation fall 
> >> >>>>>>> apart on us.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Thoughts?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Cheers,
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Johan
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >
> >>
> >> - --
> >> you too?
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