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Hi Paul,

But that is if you know the class already right?

When you load the Hivemind registry using XML, it will do a
getResources("META-INF/hivemodule.xml") on the class loader and
processes a list of hivemodules.  Now, if you can do the same with
annotations, then we are in the clear.

Cheers,

Johan

Paul Cooley wrote:
> Johan:
> Discovering Annotations at runtime is fairly straightforward.  There are
> some tricks, however, when you begin going across ClassLoaders (which I
> assume is going to happen in this case since jars are being loaded at
> runtime).  In these instances, it may be necessary to compare
> annotations by name rather than Class, since they may not match (due to
> different ClassLoaders).
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> On 4/10/07, *Johan Lindquist* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Marcus,
> 
> Yes, I can admit the same for the verifier just now - but as you say,
> the code is short ...
> 
> As for parsing the code (and maybe Achim has some thoughts on this) to
> create a registry - sounds like a good plan.  I guess it can be written
> to raise events which the plugins can act on (similar to module loading
> now i belive??).
> 
> However, both plugins depend on runtime discovery of modules - and as I
> understand it, this is something which is currently not supported by
> 2.0?  Do I understand things correctly when I say that supporting such
> discovery is currently not possible with JDK 1.5 and annotations?  I.e.
> it is very hard (if not impossible) to "discover" classes which have
> annotations on them?  Is the plan to solve this by creating a sort of
> hybrid solution which uses both XML and annotations?
> 
> Not sure if I am completely off the mark here :)
> 
> Johan
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Johan,
> 
>> I think, I used the Apache License - so no problem here.
> 
>> However, I have to blushingly admit, that the hivedoc plugin is
> quite a quick hack. So don't expect any clean abstraction from the
> xml-Registry-Definition.
>> On the positive side, the code is short and straightforward, so it
> shouldn't be really difficult to pull apart the xml-parsing and the
> output-generation.
>> Unfortunately, I've not yet had the time to look into the new API.
> Basically, one probably needs to search the source-files for
> HiveMind-2.0 annotations.
>> This annotation-parsing thing should be common for validator and
> hivedoc mojos. The simplest thing might be to generate the good old
> xml-registry as a temporary file from the annotations and use it as
> input for both tools.
> 
>> Marcus
> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Johan Lindquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:04 AM
>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: HiveMind Site
>>>
>> Hi,
> 
>> For the verifier mojo, there are no issues - not sure about
>> the HiveDoc one - Marcus?
> 
>> And yes, HiveMind 2.0 integration should be considered.
>> verifier should definately be possibly to re-use for XML
>> descriptors but it needs to be retrofitted to handle
>> annotated registries.  For HiveDoc, I would assume the same
>> thing applies?
> 
>> Johan
> 
>> Achim Hügen wrote:
>>>>> It would be great to add that plugin to the hivemind subversion
>>>>> repository as an additional module.
>>>>> Does any licensing issues or copyright speak against it?
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, we will have to check how such plugins can be
>> integrated with the
>>>>> HiveMind 2 registry definition API.
>>>>>
>>>>> Achim
>>>>>
>>>>> Am Thu, 05 Apr 2007 10:09:17 +0200 schrieb Johan Lindquist
>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, I will take a look - and file the JIRA.
>>>>>
>>>>> About the plugin - basically there are two mojos that were
>> mentioned
>>>>> on the list - a hivedoc report plugin (written by Marcus
>> Schulte) and
>>>>> a hivemodule.xml verifier plugin (started by myself).  The thoughts
>>>>> were to create one single hivemind plugin with these two
>> sub-goals (if
>>>>> that is the correct wording).  Then of course, any other sub-goals
>>>>> that come along would slot in quite nicely as well.  Makes sense?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Johan
>>>>>
>>>>> Achim Hügen wrote:
>>>>>>>> Your changes are very welcome.
>>>>>>>> Please use JIRA for submitting the patches.
>>>>>>>> Maybe the IE bug has already been fixed on the tapestry
>> site where
>>>>>>>> I copied the styles from.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could you give me a short update on the plugin subject?
>>>>>>>> Did you create the plugins or who is the owner?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Achim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am Tue, 03 Apr 2007 09:42:24 +0200 schrieb Johan Lindquist
>>>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Achim,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think misunderstood the problem with the pom - thought it was
>>>>>>>> related to the "root" source repository location as indicated by
>>>>>>>> the project info on the homepage.  Apologies for my
>> hasty conclusions.
>>>>>>>> In any case, I think we all agree that the site should
>> be updated
>>>>>>>> and I understand fully if time prevents this .  And as far as
>>>>>>>> committers go, I guess James is only one still active?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On a different note - looks like the site doesn't work entirely
>>>>>>>> correct on IE (at least for me, the left nav is not
>> visible in IE -
>>>>>>>> firefox works fine) - do you mind if I make one or two
>> changes to
>>>>>>>> the hivemind site project to correct this?  Would you
>> want another
>>>>>>>> JIRA for this to keep track?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And lastly, was also hoping to incorpororate the Maven Hivemind
>>>>>>>> plugins previously mentioned - module verification and
>> hivedoc.  Thoughts?
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Johan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Achim Hügen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Johan, the bug refered to the HiveMind 2 poms and I fixed
> it.
>>>>>>>>>>> Nevertheless it would be nice if someone could apply
>> the patches
>>>>>>>>>>> to the 1.2 site and release it.
>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately my time is limited and I focus on
>> version 2.0 in
>>>>>>>>>>> the moment.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody else?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Achim
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am Mon, 02 Apr 2007 09:17:01 +0200 schrieb Johan Lindquist
>>>>>>>>>>> < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Over the weekend there was a JIRA opened for the SVN
> links on
>>>>>>>>>>> the HiveMind site.  Looks like the current project info (as
>>>>>>>>>>> generated by
>>>>>>>>>>> Maven) uses the site scm URL (someone correct me if I
>> am wrong)?
>>>>>>>>>>> Now, to make sure that users don't get confused can I
>> suggest we
>>>>>>>>>>> try to get the updated site up for Hivemind?  The
>> patch already
>>>>>>>>>>> supplied will provide the new look and feel and other updates
>>>>>>>>>>> that the maven build brings.  The 2.0 site should of course
>>>>>>>>>>> still be there but I guess it
>>>>>>>>>>> depends somewhat on how complete the documentation is
>> - Achim?   If
>>>>>>>>>>> there is some work required to complete it, anything someone
>>>>>>>>>>> else can pick up?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In any case, we should try to clean up the site and make sure
>>>>>>>>>>> links (such as the SCM) works correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Only my two cents worth, but we don't want to confuse
>> the users
>>>>>>>>>>> further by having the (so far very good) documentation fall
>>>>>>>>>>> apart on us.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Johan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
> 

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