+1 for me too. Should be simpler.

Le lun. 12 avr. 2021 à 19:51, Bart Maertens <[email protected]> a
écrit :

> How about we start by adding a pointer to the ASF CoC to our community
> pages?
>
> We could add the checklist Matt provided. As the CoC states, we should
> assume that "bad behaviour" is unintentional in a lot of (or most) cases.
> We could add a couple of items to the checklist from the other point of
> view: "how can I ask for help or get answers to my questions in a
> non-offensive way"?
>
> I assume these pages will mostly be read by people who are on the receiving
> end of negative behavior and will only be needed on very rare occasions,
> but at least it gives us a document to point to in case the need arises.
>
> Regards,
> Bart
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 5:46 PM Julian Hyde <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for starting this conversation, Matt. FYI, ASF has a CoC [1]
> > and it automatically applies to the Hop community, but it's great if
> > Hop wants to extend it with its own culture/values.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 7:40 AM Matt Casters
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Hoppers,
> > >
> > > In our short history we've been on the receiving end of very little
> > > negative feedback.  It's been a very fun experience to help each other
> > out
> > > and the source code in general is very accomodating to doing your own
> > thing
> > > in your own plugin without getting in the way of others.
> > >
> > > However, when negative feedback does come on occasion (it does and it
> > will)
> > > we need to be a bit more prepared for it.   As such I would like to
> have
> > a
> > > developer/community "code of conduct" on our website so that we can
> help
> > > people to react appropriately to negative feedback.
> > >
> > > I believe that in essence any conflict in software or architecture is
> an
> > > opportunity for improvement.  I would very much like such an attitude
> to
> > be
> > > the leading principle in this scenario.
> > >
> > > Can we come up with a list of advice for recipients of negative
> feedback?
> > > Or perhaps a checklist?
> > >
> > > - Take a deep breath, read the message a few more times.  Do not reply
> > > immediately.
> > > - If you can not give a constructive response, consider not responding
> at
> > > all or with a question asking for clarification.
> > > - Empathically consider that the person in question is perhaps
> > frustrated /
> > > using a foreign language / stressed out / in a pinch / ...
> > > - If you feel you are bothered by the feedback; can you figure out
> > > why exactly this is?  The tone of the feedback should be disregarded.
> > Its
> > > actual content should be taken seriously.
> > > - Consider the opportunities for improvement of our software.  A lot of
> > > people take software as is and are not even aware that we can fairly
> > > quickly change a lot of things.
> > > - Consider creating JIRA cases based on the feedback to capture
> negative
> > > feedback with bug reports, improvements or even taks for architectural
> > > changes.
> > >
> > > Anyway, feel free to pile on.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Matt
> >
>

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