Hi Bart, I am in favour of moving to GitHub discussions and moving the more informal conversations to a slack channel. Having questions marked as solved and publicly available will indirectly improve the overal documentation available for the project.
Cheers, Hans On 8 Oct 2024 at 08:33 +0200, Bart Maertens <bartm...@apache.org>, wrote: > Hi Brandon, > > GitHub Discussions are different from GitHub issues. Discussions can be > around a ticket or issue, but are generally more about discussing > functionality, features and problems people may have in the use of the > available functionality. > > Have a look at the "Get Inspired" section on the GitHub Discussions page > [1] or this example of a lengthy thread on the Next.js GitHub Discussions > [2]. > The longer-form-questions in GitHub Discussions provide a hybrid between > direct chat and a more forum-like style of interacting, which imho will > improve the quality of the questions and answers, as described in (c) in my > initial post. > > I understand and agree with your point that the social aspect may be lower > on GitHub Discussions. > Even though that argument is valid, I don't know if it justifies running an > entire Mattermost server. > We could consider creating a #hop channel in the ASF Slack workspace [3] > and move the social and more informal part of the discussions there. > > [1] https://github.com/features/discussions > [2] https://github.com/vercel/next.js/discussions/46722 > [3] https://the-asf.slack.com/ > > Regards, > Bart > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 5:27 AM Brandon Jackson <usbran...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I like the idea of Question/Answer discussions going to Github; but I would > > still like to be able to chat with friends on Mattermost. > > Where would the social aspect be? I see people using github issues for > > what I think you are suggesting as discussions. > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 8:43 AM Bart Maertens <bartm...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Hoppers, > > > > > > > > As a community, we're all constantly trying to improve Apache Hop and > > > > how > > > > the community members can work together and interact. > > > > > > > > In that regard, we've come to a point where we may need to reconsider > > > > the > > > > Mattermost chat [1]. > > > > > > > > A couple of observations about the Mattermost chat: > > > > a) it isn't hosted on an "official" Apache Hop subdomain (nor can it > > > > be). > > > > b) access is open and free, but the chat history is not publicly > > available > > > > and not indexable by search engines. > > > > c) the "quality" of the questions is not always as high as we'd like > > > > them > > > > to be. There are a lot of open-ended or "build my pipeline" type of > > > > questions that should be answered in the documentation and samples. > > > > Check > > > > out the contribution guides [2] if you'd like to help out with the docs > > and > > > > samples. > > > > > > > > To improve community interaction on a truly open and publicly available > > > > platform, we could consider enabling GitHub discussions [3] on our > > > > GitHub > > > > repository [4], and move the Mattermost discussions there. > > > > > > > > GitHub Discussions have several advantages over our current Mattermost > > > > chat: > > > > a) even though not on an Apache subdomain, the discussions are part of > > the > > > > source code repository, and as such, they're as close as possible to the > > > > project's source code and issues > > > > b) GitHub Discussions are publicly available and indexable by search > > > > engines > > > > c) discussions can be labeled, marked as "Answered" etc. > > > > > > > > The switch to GitHub discussions is nothing but a suggestion, we're > > > > eager > > > > to know what your thoughts and suggestions are. > > > > Let's start the discussion! > > > > > > > > [1] https://chat.project-hop.org. > > > > [2] https://hop.apache.org/community/contributing/ > > > > [3] https://github.com/features/discussions > > > > [4] https://github.com/apache/hop > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Bart > > > > > >
