Hi all,
+1 for moving to GitHub discussion.
I think it's also possible to create a GitHub issue from a discussion so it can
be very useful.
+1 also for the Slack channel (ASF Slack workspace).
regards,
François
fpa...@apache.org
francois.pa...@openobject.fr
Le 10/10/2024 à 14:51, Matt Casters a écrit :
Hi all,
To be honest, I've been having trouble with the Mattermost client. On and
off, it's been a bit of a struggle. So, slack is fine for me as well.
I'm also in favor of opening up the github discussions area for the Hop
repository.
Cheers,
Matt
Op do 10 okt 2024 om 08:21 schreef Hans Van Akelyen <
hans.van.akel...@gmail.com>:
Hi Bart,
I am in favour of moving to GitHub discussions and moving the more
informal conversations to a slack channel.
Having questions marked as solved and publicly available will indirectly
improve the overal documentation available for the project.
Cheers,
Hans
On 8 Oct 2024 at 08:33 +0200, Bart Maertens<bartm...@apache.org>, wrote:
Hi Brandon,
GitHub Discussions are different from GitHub issues. Discussions can be
around a ticket or issue, but are generally more about discussing
functionality, features and problems people may have in the use of the
available functionality.
Have a look at the "Get Inspired" section on the GitHub Discussions page
[1] or this example of a lengthy thread on the Next.js GitHub Discussions
[2].
The longer-form-questions in GitHub Discussions provide a hybrid between
direct chat and a more forum-like style of interacting, which imho will
improve the quality of the questions and answers, as described in (c) in
my
initial post.
I understand and agree with your point that the social aspect may be
lower
on GitHub Discussions.
Even though that argument is valid, I don't know if it justifies running
an
entire Mattermost server.
We could consider creating a #hop channel in the ASF Slack workspace [3]
and move the social and more informal part of the discussions there.
[1]https://github.com/features/discussions
[2]https://github.com/vercel/next.js/discussions/46722
[3]https://the-asf.slack.com/
Regards,
Bart
On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 5:27 AM Brandon Jackson<usbran...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I like the idea of Question/Answer discussions going to Github; but I
would
still like to be able to chat with friends on Mattermost.
Where would the social aspect be? I see people using github issues for
what I think you are suggesting as discussions.
On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 8:43 AM Bart Maertens<bartm...@apache.org>
wrote:
Dear Hoppers,
As a community, we're all constantly trying to improve Apache Hop
and how
the community members can work together and interact.
In that regard, we've come to a point where we may need to
reconsider the
Mattermost chat [1].
A couple of observations about the Mattermost chat:
a) it isn't hosted on an "official" Apache Hop subdomain (nor can
it be).
b) access is open and free, but the chat history is not publicly
available
and not indexable by search engines.
c) the "quality" of the questions is not always as high as we'd
like them
to be. There are a lot of open-ended or "build my pipeline" type of
questions that should be answered in the documentation and
samples. Check
out the contribution guides [2] if you'd like to help out with the
docs
and
samples.
To improve community interaction on a truly open and publicly
available
platform, we could consider enabling GitHub discussions [3] on our
GitHub
repository [4], and move the Mattermost discussions there.
GitHub Discussions have several advantages over our current
Mattermost
chat:
a) even though not on an Apache subdomain, the discussions are
part of
the
source code repository, and as such, they're as close as possible
to the
project's source code and issues
b) GitHub Discussions are publicly available and indexable by
search
engines
c) discussions can be labeled, marked as "Answered" etc.
The switch to GitHub discussions is nothing but a suggestion,
we're eager
to know what your thoughts and suggestions are.
Let's start the discussion!
[1]https://chat.project-hop.org.
[2]https://hop.apache.org/community/contributing/
[3]https://github.com/features/discussions
[4]https://github.com/apache/hop
Regards,
Bart