Hi Matt,

I'm not sure we are on a rush to release quickly after a release because users can also stay on the previous version and the release process is not so quick.

The only case where I saw less than 72 hours on vote at ASF projects is when there is a severe CVE.

regards,

François
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Le 05/06/2026 à 10:43, Matt Casters (i-Bridge) a écrit :
That's why we have a minor version scheme.  It doesn't always have to be .0
at the end.
I'm in favor of NOT waiting 2 weeks and just doing the 2.18.1 point release
to minimize the impact.
If other regressions pop up despite everything we can do a 2.18.2 as well
IMO.

Cheers,
Matt


Op vr 5 jun 2026 om 10:30 schreef Bart Maertens <[email protected]>:

Hi Everyone,

As you may have noticed, we have a regression [1] in the Sorted Merge
transform in 2.18.0.
We have no meaningful integration tests for Sorted Merge, so this slipped
through the cracks.

Sorted Merge is a crucial transform, so this issue will cause a lot of
production deployments to fail when they try to upgrade to 2.18.0.
Even though we usually do not create patch releases, this regression might
be serious enough to break our habit and create a 2.18.1 release.

Given the fact that this regression was introduced in a massive burst of
XML cleanup changes [2]. It might make sense to wait another week or 2 to
see if any other regressions show up.

Just to be clear: this is about the fact that there’s a regression. The XML
cleanup is tricky but had to be done. This is in no way meant to point
fingers; please consider this discussion a blameless post-mortem.

My suggested approach would be:
1. Give this discussion 72 hours to allow all developers and PMC members to
weigh in. When the discussion is closed, we inform the users that we have
found a significant regression in 2.18.0 and will create a patch release.
At the same time, we ask them to check for any additional regressions and
report asap if they find any.
2. We wait another 2 weeks to see if any other regressions show up, and
then create a 2.18.1 patch release before the end of the month (June).
3. We put our focus on creating additional integration tests for transforms
and actions in the 2.19.0 release.

Let me know what you think.

[1] https://github.com/apache/hop/issues/7219
[2]

https://github.com/apache/hop/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20state%3Aclosed%20milestone%3A%222.18%22%20cleanup%20xml

Regards,
Bart

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