Hi All,

I'll be preparing a 2.18.1 branch and cherry pick some of the things we have 
found and fixed. I'd like to keep these patch releases to a minimum as making 
them isn't just a click of a button and do indeed require a vote and all that.

Cheers,
Hans
On 8 Jun 2026 at 10:30 +0200, Francois Papon <[email protected]>, 
wrote:
> Hi Matt,
>
> I'm not sure we are on a rush to release quickly after a release because
> users can also stay on the previous version and the release process is
> not so quick.
>
> The only case where I saw less than 72 hours on vote at ASF projects is
> when there is a severe CVE.
>
> regards,
>
> François
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
>
> Le 05/06/2026 à 10:43, Matt Casters (i-Bridge) a écrit :
> > That's why we have a minor version scheme. It doesn't always have to be .0
> > at the end.
> > I'm in favor of NOT waiting 2 weeks and just doing the 2.18.1 point release
> > to minimize the impact.
> > If other regressions pop up despite everything we can do a 2.18.2 as well
> > IMO.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Matt
> >
> >
> > Op vr 5 jun 2026 om 10:30 schreef Bart Maertens <[email protected]>:
> >
> > > > Hi Everyone,
> > > >
> > > > As you may have noticed, we have a regression [1] in the Sorted Merge
> > > > transform in 2.18.0.
> > > > We have no meaningful integration tests for Sorted Merge, so this 
> > > > slipped
> > > > through the cracks.
> > > >
> > > > Sorted Merge is a crucial transform, so this issue will cause a lot of
> > > > production deployments to fail when they try to upgrade to 2.18.0.
> > > > Even though we usually do not create patch releases, this regression 
> > > > might
> > > > be serious enough to break our habit and create a 2.18.1 release.
> > > >
> > > > Given the fact that this regression was introduced in a massive burst of
> > > > XML cleanup changes [2]. It might make sense to wait another week or 2 
> > > > to
> > > > see if any other regressions show up.
> > > >
> > > > Just to be clear: this is about the fact that there’s a regression. The 
> > > > XML
> > > > cleanup is tricky but had to be done. This is in no way meant to point
> > > > fingers; please consider this discussion a blameless post-mortem.
> > > >
> > > > My suggested approach would be:
> > > > 1. Give this discussion 72 hours to allow all developers and PMC 
> > > > members to
> > > > weigh in. When the discussion is closed, we inform the users that we 
> > > > have
> > > > found a significant regression in 2.18.0 and will create a patch 
> > > > release.
> > > > At the same time, we ask them to check for any additional regressions 
> > > > and
> > > > report asap if they find any.
> > > > 2. We wait another 2 weeks to see if any other regressions show up, and
> > > > then create a 2.18.1 patch release before the end of the month (June).
> > > > 3. We put our focus on creating additional integration tests for 
> > > > transforms
> > > > and actions in the 2.19.0 release.
> > > >
> > > > Let me know what you think.
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://github.com/apache/hop/issues/7219
> > > > [2]
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/apache/hop/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20state%3Aclosed%20milestone%3A%222.18%22%20cleanup%20xml
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Bart
> > > >

Reply via email to