On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 12:12:27PM -0500, Jeff Stuart wrote: > face to everyone who uses/depends on Apache. Of all the programs I > use/depends (Apache, PHP, Perl, Mysql, mod_perl, Gnome) only here have I > seen that attitude that the USERS of a program do not matter.
What I think Roy means is people who contribute are part of the community. And, feedback about our releases constitutes a worthy contribution. And, note that Dale who started this thread has made many contributions, so he is a valued member. However, I don't really have a good response to his initial comments since I agree with them. One morning, I'll wake up and say "2.0 is GA" and if there aren't any showstoppers in STATUS, it is. That's life. As Ian pointed out, it's a mystical line in the sand. But, the fact remains that we won't release 2.0 as a GA until enough people step up and help contribute towards making it solid. On my side of the fence as a developer, that means getting betas out and addressing issues that our users see. If I didn't value our users, I wouldn't have spent so much time fighting GNATS in the last few days to get their bug reports. On your side as a user, that means you should test our releases or offer constructive feedback about what we're doing *technically*. As Ian asked, have you tested Apache 2.0? A simple, "Hey, this thing is great!" or "Hey, this thing sucks!" is a contribution in and of itself. I think you missed Roy's point entirely. -- justin
