William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> At 05:22 AM 8/30/2005, Jeff Trawick wrote:
> 
>>On 8/30/05, Paul Querna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>I counted two votes about 2.1.7-beta:
>>>+1: Brad, Joe
>>>
>>>No one else put votes in the thread.
>>
>>+1, with a strong concern that the non-showstopper issues are highlighted
> 
> 
> Whoops - missed the word 'beta' :)
> 
> First I'm not really clear, will this go 2.2.0-beta, or will
> we keep shipping 2.1.7-beta, 2.1.8-beta, 2.1.9-beta, then
> 2.2.0-ga?

My plan it to use 2.1.XX numbers until GA.  This means 2.1.8-beta,
2.1.9-beta, etc, until we vote one of these betas as GA.  Once voted for
GA, it will be tagged to 2.2.0, and the first 2.2.0 release will be GA.
 This is in an attempt to avoid the uncertainty that the early 2.0.xx
releases caused.

> I'm concerned about a number of significant instability reports
> on 2.0.x, never mind 2.1.x, in bugzilla, and don't think this
> is quite ready to ship.

Please be specific.  I don't see many 'instability' reports.  Can you
provide examples of which entries in bugzilla you are thinking of?

I don't think we are taking a step back with 2.1.x.  It might not be a
step forward in every module, but it isn't getting worse than 2.0.x, and
that is the important part.

The point of beta it to get more exposure for these new features. It
does not need to be perfect, only better than the last beta.

> So -1 here from the peanut gallery on beta for this candidate,
> simply because most devs didn't feel strongly enough to endorse
> this beta over the last week+.  Let's see if we can't find a
> candidate that folks endorse more strongly.

So, this is a -1 not on technical reasons, but because other people
haven't voted on it?  I disagree on that kind of reason for a -1 vote.

> IIUC release voting lasts typically 3 days or so, if this vote
> stretched out this long, I'd offer that it didn't pass.

FWIW, last time I did a release voting in exactly 3 days (ARR 1.1.1),
people wanted longer.  I was busy this weekend, and this was the first
chance I had to touch base with people on the voting. My choice was 3
days, or 9 days.

-Paul

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