On Nov 20, 2005, at 1:51 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:

On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 08:48:20AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote:
-1 for GA. We should have 2.1.10 as beta for at least a week, possibly
2, note it as a RC to the general public and the, after significant
feedback from the user community re-roll as GA.

First off, we have no formal designation of RC.  We proceed with
alpha->beta->GA per our agreed-upon rules.

Paul also said he was going to wait 7-10 days for feedback. If there's
any legitimate concerns raised during that timeframe, then we can
discuss not having 2.1.10 be a GA.

Remember that we released 2.1.9 (and several others before then)
publicly with very little legitimate negative feedback.  Plus, 2.1.10
has only small code changes from 2.1.9.  So, I'm fairly confident that
we're not going to produce a dud.

Therefore, combined with the fact that I tested 2.1.10 on several
machines here and it's up on minotaur, I see no reason at this time not
to make it a GA.

If there's minor bugs discovered, we'll fix those up for 2.2.1.  2.2.0
doesn't need to be perfect - it just needs to be better than 2.0.x which
this is by a large margin.  -- justin


For the most part, I agree with the above. However:

  1. No RC designation:
     The fact that we don't have one now doesn't mean
     we can never have one. Maybe things would be easier
     if we did... certainly it provides a more formal
     release procedure, and one which communicates to
     the community that "we're talking serious GA soon".
     If we are to "add" a RC designation/phase, now would
     be a good time.

  2. Paul wrote:

Please test and vote on releasing 2.1.10 as STABLE/General Availability.

        If the vote passes, it will be re-rolled as 2.2.0.

I intend to leave the vote open for at least 7-10 days. www.apache.org is currently running 2.1.9-beta, it is pretty close code wise, but it
        would be nice to get this release on there too.

     I cannot vote on releasing 2.1.10 as STABLE/GA until
     we obtain feedback. If Paul has said, explicitly, "
     Vote on release 2.1.10 as BETA. After 7-10 days of testing
     and feedback, I will call a vote for STABLE/GA" then that
     would be different. It states that the vote for GA will be
     help after feedback.

     Again, the main thing is that I'd like to see more
     feedback from the much larger user community, to make
     sure that any issues that they may have are addressed.
     No, I don't think that 2.2.0 is the be-all and end-all;
     if the past >10 years history has shown me anything is
     that 2.2.1 will likely be released  v. quickly.

I'm +1 for 2.1.10 being released as beta... I'm withholding any
vote on Stable/GA until we see more testing/feedback results.

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