My suggestion would be to first define the HIP template and the process, document , push the site out.. Then we can use the GlobalIndex doc to test drive the process. Are there other specific things you want to test out on cWiki itself?
On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 10:09 AM nishith agarwal <n3.nas...@gmail.com> wrote: > Okay, great. Yeah, I'll look into the templates and guidelines around > writing new proposals/designs. > In parallel, I'll share the GlobalIndex document on google drive and we can > try to put that up on cWiki to test things out ? (or any other document > works fine too). > > -Nishith > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 12:53 PM Vinoth Chandar <vin...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Nishith, that google account is already owned by private@ . It's folders > > are publicly viewable.. > > So we should be good to go. > > > > I think next step is to define a standard HIP (Hudi Improvement Proposal) > > template and guidelines around writing a new proposal.. > > This is what you were originally trying to do, IIRC? > > > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 12:40 PM nishith agarwal <n3.nas...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Great! Thanks Thomas. > > > > > > Vinoth, > > > Can we use our existing hoodie google drive and share it with @dev ? > > > > > > -Nishith > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 9:52 PM Thomas Weise <t...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > I created the space and added user vinoth as space admin. > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HUDI/Home > > > > > > > > Thomas > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 4:25 PM Vinoth Chandar <vin...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I think its listed here? > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Cwiki > > > > > https://selfserve.apache.org ? > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 9:13 PM Thomas Weise <t...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The confluence wiki space should be created in any case. I > believe > > > this > > > > > can > > > > > > be done by mentors through the infra self serve portal, but don't > > > have > > > > it > > > > > > in front of me at the moment. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > sent from mobile > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019, 5:51 PM Vinoth Chandar <vin...@apache.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bumping this thread up. We have a few big designs upcoming.. > > > > > > > Love to get this going, using this new setup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 8:54 PM nishith agarwal < > > > n3.nas...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can go ahead and setup the google drive as well as cWiki. > > > > > > > > Mentors, > > > > > > > > I created a new account at https://cwiki.apache.org/. > Should I > > > > > create > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > space with name "Hudi" where we could start adding the final > > > > drafts ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Nishith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 11:08 AM Prasanna < > > > prasanna....@gmail.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2019, 7:46 PM Suneel Marthi < > > smar...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 6:39 PM Vinoth Chandar < > > > > vin...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Generally, project artifacts should be hosted on ASF > > > > > > > > infrastructure. > > > > > > > > > > > +1 on this. The Google doc => wiki workflow has also > > worked > > > > > well > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > companies for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like we have consensus? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 2:46 PM Suneel Marthi < > > > > > > > > suneel.mar...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of the Flink FLIPs r initially done in a working > > > > google > > > > > > doc > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > finally draft is captured on wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Example ---> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-24+-+SQL+Client > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could do the same with Hudi --> as long as the google > > doc > > > > is > > > > > > > > editable > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > one and all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 5:29 PM Thomas Weise < > > > > t...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Generally, project artifacts should be hosted on > ASF > > > > > > > > > infrastructure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Google drive is good for collaboration, but not a > > > > > replacement > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > project > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 2:05 PM Vinoth Chandar < > > > > > > > vin...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think there is good search on gdrive. Let me > > > confirm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 7:28 AM Prasanna < > > > > > > prasa...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How could we search through a bunch of Google > > docs? > > > > Is > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > way > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If not may be moving the final specs into cwiki > > and > > > > > > > deleting > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > Google > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may be better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Prasanna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 7, 2019, 2:08 AM Vinoth Chandar < > > > > > > > > vin...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont mind calling them HIPs at all :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 2:06 AM Suneel Marthi > < > > > > > > > > > > smar...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > using google docs is fine, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > u might want to look at how Kafka KIPs and > > > Flink > > > > > > FLIPs > > > > > > > r > > > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other projects r doing it now and its been > > > > working > > > > > > well > > > > > > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Start HIPs ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 11:04 AM Vinoth > > Chandar > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mail.vinoth.chan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 on using Google docs for sharing > design > > > > docs. > > > > > > IIRC > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > > > spark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > used > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > google docs for collaborating on designs. > > We > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > gmail > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > account > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shared with private@. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, once the designs are finalized, do > we > > > move > > > > > > them > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > cwiki > > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > keep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in gdoc itself? For eg, kafka has all the > > > > design > > > > > > docs > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > cwiki. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > okay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with just sticking to gdocs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts? Others? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 11:32 PM nishith > > > > agarwal < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nagar...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to start a discussion around > > > > > > contributing > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > collaborating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > design for large features. I've noticed > > > that > > > > > for > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > projects > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as apache beam, google docs is chosen > as > > a > > > > > means > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > collaborate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > design > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > documents and large changes (Find it > here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://beam.apache.org/contribute/>. > > > Read > > > > > > under > > > > > > > > > "Share > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intent" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > section). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've researched and seen some other > > > projects > > > > > > (such > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > Hadoop) > > > > > > > > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PDF's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > share design documents which may be is > > the > > > > > final > > > > > > > > design > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unsure > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > collaboration happened on those. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some projects like apache spark mention > > the > > > > use > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > mailing > > > > > > > > > > > > > lists > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > design > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussions. (Find it here < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://spark.apache.org/contributing.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read under Contributing bug reports). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Traditionally, for Hudi, we've used > > google > > > > docs > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > collaborate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been very useful. We also have some > > > existing > > > > > > > > > outstanding > > > > > > > > > > > > design > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > documents > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in google docs and would favor using > the > > > same > > > > > > going > > > > > > > > > > forward > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > apache > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hudi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to gather your thoughts on > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nishith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
