Hi Sudha,

Can you or Vinoth help me with this? How can we create a JIRA for that ?

I can collaborate bringing the description and definition of done.

Thanks,

Mario.

On Tue, 9 Jun 2020, 23:46 Bhavani Sudha, <bhavanisud...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mario,
>
> Can you please share your jira id ?
>
> Thanks,
> Sudha
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 3:29 AM Mario de Sá Vera <desav...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > hey Vinoth, I noticed you added this suggestion to the weekly log .. that
> > is great ! just let me know if I am able to create a JIRA , as I tried to
> > go to HUDI project in Apache and did not find a way to do it. I can bring
> > in a good description of the benefits etc...
> >
> > thanks, Mario.
> >
> > Em seg., 8 de jun. de 2020 às 12:46, Vinoth Chandar <vin...@apache.org>
> > escreveu:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > We can probably make a new JIRA. Not sure if there is an existing JIRA
> to
> > > re-use.
> > > The Following modules are good to look at.
> > >
> > > hudi-timeline-service
> > > packaging/hudi-timeline-server-bundle
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Vinoth
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 12:56 AM Mario de Sá Vera <desav...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sorry Vinoth for not being clear... If that is a work in progress
> would
> > > you
> > > > have a jira I could follow up and contribute to ? If not , what is
> the
> > > > module name you suggest me looking at?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Mario.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 5 Jun 2020, 02:12 Vinoth Chandar, <vin...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Sorry did not understand the last part. :) are you suggesting we
> > > create a
> > > > > jira
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:08 AM Mario de Sá Vera <
> desav...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > That sounds great ! Will check that and keep an eye on the long
> > > running
> > > > > > server approach... once it gets a ticket I could watch for just
> let
> > > me
> > > > > know
> > > > > > please.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, 05:34 Vinoth Chandar, <vin...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Mario,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We actually started with the idea of making the timeline
> server,
> > a
> > > > long
> > > > > > > running service.  We have a module if you notice that builds
> our
> > a
> > > > > bundle
> > > > > > > that you could deploy. May be you can play with it and see if
> > that
> > > > > sounds
> > > > > > > interesting to you. It will definitely have some rough edges
> > given
> > > > it’s
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > been widely used.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Vinoth
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 2:33 AM Mario de Sá Vera <
> > > desav...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Vinoth, thanks for your comments on this. I spent sometime
> > > > > thinking
> > > > > > > over
> > > > > > > > another possibility which would be externalising the Hudi
> > > timeline
> > > > > > > service
> > > > > > > > itself to an external server holding both operational (ie
> Hudi)
> > > and
> > > > > > > > business metadata.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > would you guys have any opinion on that ? would that be easy
> > as I
> > > > do
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > seem to see a way yet , except reading about RocksDB but that
> > is
> > > > > still
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > quite clear.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > best regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mario.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Em seg., 1 de jun. de 2020 às 16:01, Vinoth Chandar <
> > > > > > > > mail.vinoth.chan...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Mario,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the detailed explanation. Hudi already allows
> > extra
> > > > > > metadata
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > be written atomically with each commit i.e write operation.
> > In
> > > > > fact,
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > is how we track checkpoints for our delta streamer tool..
> It
> > > may
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > > solve
> > > > > > > > > the need for querying the data together with this
> > information.
> > > > but
> > > > > > > gives
> > > > > > > > > you ability to do some basic tagging.. if thats useful
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >>If we enable the timeline service metadata model to be
> > > extended
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > use the service instance itself to support specialised
> > queries
> > > > that
> > > > > > > > involve
> > > > > > > > > business qualifiers in order to return a proper set of
> > metadata
> > > > > > > pointing
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > the related commits
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This is a good idea actually.. There is another active
> > discuss
> > > > > thread
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > making the metadata queryable.. there is also
> > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HUDI-309 which we
> > paused
> > > > for
> > > > > > > now..
> > > > > > > > > But that's more in line with what you are thinking IIUC
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > vinoth
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 4:41 AM Mario de Sá Vera <
> > > > > desav...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Balaji,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > business metadata are all types of info related to the
> > > business
> > > > > > where
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > Hudi solution is being used... from a COB (ie close of
> > > business
> > > > > > date)
> > > > > > > > > > related to that commit to any qualifier related to that
> > > commit
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > might
> > > > > > > > > > be useful to be associated with that commit id. If we
> > enable
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > timeline
> > > > > > > > > > service metadata model to be extended we could use the
> > > service
> > > > > > > instance
> > > > > > > > > > itself to support specialised queries that involve
> business
> > > > > > > qualifiers
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > order to return a proper set of metadata pointing to the
> > > > related
> > > > > > > > commits
> > > > > > > > > > that answer a business query.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > if we do not have that flexibility we might end up
> > creating a
> > > > > > > external
> > > > > > > > > > transaction log and then comes the hard task to make that
> > > > service
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > sync
> > > > > > > > > > to the timeline service.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > let me know if that makes sense to you,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Mario.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Em seg., 1 de jun. de 2020 às 06:55, Balaji Varadarajan
> > > > > > > > > > <v.bal...@ymail.com.invalid> escreveu:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >  Hi Mario,
> > > > > > > > > > > Timeline Server was designed to serve hudi metadata for
> > > Hudi
> > > > > > > writers
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > readers.  it may not be suitable to serve arbitrary
> data.
> > > > But,
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > > > interesting thought. Can you elaborate more on what
> kind
> > of
> > > > > > > business
> > > > > > > > > > > metadata are you looking. Is this something you are
> > > planning
> > > > to
> > > > > > > store
> > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > commit files ?
> > > > > > > > > > > Balaji.V
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >     On Sunday, May 31, 2020, 04:22:27 PM PDT, Mario de
> Sá
> > > > Vera
> > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > > desav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >  I see a need for extending the current timeline server
> > > > schema
> > > > > so
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > flexible model could be achieved in order to
> accommodate
> > > > > business
> > > > > > > > > > metadata.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > let me know if that makes sense to anyone here...
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Mario.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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