great ! will definitely follow up... Em qua., 10 de jun. de 2020 às 19:28, Bhavani Sudha <bhavanisud...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> Ah okay. Thanks for letting us know. I created a Jira here to capture this > thread - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HUDI-1020. Feel free to add > to the jira. > > Thanks, > Sudha > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:03 AM Mario de Sá Vera <desav...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Sure Sudha, I am afraid I am not allowed to become a Hudi contributor > > unfortunately ... but restrict myself to be an enthusiastic as my current > > employer applies some severe restrictions. > > > > I would be more than happy to contribute by specifying the requirements > but > > from a code developer perspective I will have to pass that for now... > > > > Em qua., 10 de jun. de 2020 às 18:40, Bhavani Sudha < > > bhavanisud...@gmail.com> > > escreveu: > > > > > Definitely. I was trying to add you to the Hudi contributors so you can > > > create a Jira . For that I need a jira id. If you have not already > signed > > > up, please sign up for Jira and let me know your jira id. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Sudha > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 12:17 AM Mario de Sá Vera <desav...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Sudha, > > > > > > > > Can you or Vinoth help me with this? How can we create a JIRA for > that > > ? > > > > > > > > I can collaborate bringing the description and definition of done. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Mario. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Jun 2020, 23:46 Bhavani Sudha, <bhavanisud...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Mario, > > > > > > > > > > Can you please share your jira id ? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Sudha > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 3:29 AM Mario de Sá Vera < > desav...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > hey Vinoth, I noticed you added this suggestion to the weekly log > > .. > > > > that > > > > > > is great ! just let me know if I am able to create a JIRA , as I > > > tried > > > > to > > > > > > go to HUDI project in Apache and did not find a way to do it. I > can > > > > bring > > > > > > in a good description of the benefits etc... > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks, Mario. > > > > > > > > > > > > Em seg., 8 de jun. de 2020 às 12:46, Vinoth Chandar < > > > vin...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > escreveu: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can probably make a new JIRA. Not sure if there is an > existing > > > > JIRA > > > > > to > > > > > > > re-use. > > > > > > > The Following modules are good to look at. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hudi-timeline-service > > > > > > > packaging/hudi-timeline-server-bundle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > Vinoth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 12:56 AM Mario de Sá Vera < > > > desav...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry Vinoth for not being clear... If that is a work in > > progress > > > > > would > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > have a jira I could follow up and contribute to ? If not , > what > > > is > > > > > the > > > > > > > > module name you suggest me looking at? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mario. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 5 Jun 2020, 02:12 Vinoth Chandar, <vin...@apache.org > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry did not understand the last part. :) are you > suggesting > > > we > > > > > > > create a > > > > > > > > > jira > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:08 AM Mario de Sá Vera < > > > > > desav...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That sounds great ! Will check that and keep an eye on > the > > > long > > > > > > > running > > > > > > > > > > server approach... once it gets a ticket I could watch > for > > > just > > > > > let > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > please. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, 05:34 Vinoth Chandar, < > > vin...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mario, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We actually started with the idea of making the > timeline > > > > > server, > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > long > > > > > > > > > > > running service. We have a module if you notice that > > > builds > > > > > our > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > bundle > > > > > > > > > > > that you could deploy. May be you can play with it and > > see > > > if > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > sounds > > > > > > > > > > > interesting to you. It will definitely have some rough > > > edges > > > > > > given > > > > > > > > it’s > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > been widely used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > Vinoth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 2:33 AM Mario de Sá Vera < > > > > > > > desav...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Vinoth, thanks for your comments on this. I spent > > > > sometime > > > > > > > > > thinking > > > > > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > > > > > another possibility which would be externalising the > > Hudi > > > > > > > timeline > > > > > > > > > > > service > > > > > > > > > > > > itself to an external server holding both operational > > (ie > > > > > Hudi) > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > business metadata. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would you guys have any opinion on that ? would that > be > > > > easy > > > > > > as I > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > seem to see a way yet , except reading about RocksDB > > but > > > > that > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > still > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > quite clear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mario. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Em seg., 1 de jun. de 2020 às 16:01, Vinoth Chandar < > > > > > > > > > > > > mail.vinoth.chan...@gmail.com> escreveu: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mario, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the detailed explanation. Hudi already > > > allows > > > > > > extra > > > > > > > > > > metadata > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > be written atomically with each commit i.e write > > > > operation. > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > > fact, > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > is how we track checkpoints for our delta streamer > > > tool.. > > > > > It > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > solve > > > > > > > > > > > > > the need for querying the data together with this > > > > > > information. > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > gives > > > > > > > > > > > > > you ability to do some basic tagging.. if thats > > useful > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>If we enable the timeline service metadata model > to > > > be > > > > > > > extended > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > > use the service instance itself to support > > specialised > > > > > > queries > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > involve > > > > > > > > > > > > > business qualifiers in order to return a proper set > > of > > > > > > metadata > > > > > > > > > > > pointing > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > the related commits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a good idea actually.. There is another > > active > > > > > > discuss > > > > > > > > > thread > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > making the metadata queryable.. there is also > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HUDI-309 > which > > > we > > > > > > paused > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > now.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > But that's more in line with what you are thinking > > IIUC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > vinoth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 4:41 AM Mario de Sá Vera < > > > > > > > > > desav...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Balaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > business metadata are all types of info related > to > > > the > > > > > > > business > > > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hudi solution is being used... from a COB (ie > close > > > of > > > > > > > business > > > > > > > > > > date) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > related to that commit to any qualifier related > to > > > that > > > > > > > commit > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > might > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be useful to be associated with that commit id. > If > > we > > > > > > enable > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > timeline > > > > > > > > > > > > > > service metadata model to be extended we could > use > > > the > > > > > > > service > > > > > > > > > > > instance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself to support specialised queries that > involve > > > > > business > > > > > > > > > > > qualifiers > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > order to return a proper set of metadata pointing > > to > > > > the > > > > > > > > related > > > > > > > > > > > > commits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that answer a business query. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if we do not have that flexibility we might end > up > > > > > > creating a > > > > > > > > > > > external > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transaction log and then comes the hard task to > > make > > > > that > > > > > > > > service > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > sync > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to the timeline service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let me know if that makes sense to you, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mario. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Em seg., 1 de jun. de 2020 às 06:55, Balaji > > > Varadarajan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <v.bal...@ymail.com.invalid> escreveu: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mario, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Timeline Server was designed to serve hudi > > metadata > > > > for > > > > > > > Hudi > > > > > > > > > > > writers > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > readers. it may not be suitable to serve > > arbitrary > > > > > data. > > > > > > > > But, > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > interesting thought. Can you elaborate more on > > what > > > > > kind > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > business > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > metadata are you looking. Is this something you > > are > > > > > > > planning > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > store > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > commit files ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Balaji.V > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, May 31, 2020, 04:22:27 PM PDT, > > Mario > > > > de > > > > > Sá > > > > > > > > Vera > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > desav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see a need for extending the current > timeline > > > > server > > > > > > > > schema > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexible model could be achieved in order to > > > > > accommodate > > > > > > > > > business > > > > > > > > > > > > > > metadata. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let me know if that makes sense to anyone > here... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mario. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
