Hi: The author JanKaul was an early contributor of iceberg-rust, and for the reasons mentioned in above issues he still keeps maintaining his own repo.
We also had a discussion about this problem in slack: https://apache-iceberg.slack.com/archives/C05HTENMJG4/p1720240171913639 , in summary the conclusion was: 1. crates.io doesn't have namespace/organization like other package management systems 2. We claim in our crate doc that these implementations are official implementations maintained by the apache community. 3. We contacted authors of those crates to claim that those implementations are unofficial. JanKaul helped to change the description of those crates maintained by him. On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 11:04 AM Kevin Liu <kevinjq...@apache.org> wrote: > Thanks for the context, Chengxu. I was curious about the historical > context and did some digging. I found that others have had similar > questions and have asked on the repo via issues. > > See > - New home of the repository? > https://github.com/JanKaul/iceberg-rust/issues/10 > - Project status https://github.com/JanKaul/iceberg-rust/issues/11 > - Relation to official iceberg-rust repo > https://github.com/JanKaul/iceberg-rust/issues/19 > - Please summarize relationship to another Rust implementation > https://github.com/JanKaul/iceberg-rust/issues/33 > > I have reached out to the author privately and will start a > discussion thread on the #rust Slack channel when appropriate. > > From the community standpoint, it would be great to join both communities, > unify the implementation efforts, and potentially avoid duplicate work. > My original concern was the confusion between the official `iceberg` crate > and the unofficial `iceberg-rust` crate on crates.io and the use of the > "iceberg" trademark. Apache has specific policies regarding the use of its > marks. See https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#principles > specifically under the "What is the "confusing similarity" or "likelihood > of confusion" test?" section. > > Best, > Kevin Liu > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2025 at 4:52 PM Chengxu Bian <cbian...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Just to add some context: as far as I know, the owner of the iceberg-rust >> crate was involved in the early development of the project. I believe some >> code was also ported from that repo in the early stages. I recall there >> were some discussions on Slack back in 2023 around naming — both the repo >> and the crate — and transferring ownership of the iceberg-rust crate was >> one of the options that came up at the time. >> >> On Jun 4, 2025, at 6:18 PM, Kevin Liu <kevinjq...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> Great idea Denny! Personally, I'd like to see a unified effort on the >> rust implementation for iceberg. >> >> I'll reach out to the author on Slack. Can you include you in the >> conversation? Happy to include anyone else interested too. >> >> I'll update this thread again once we get some updates. >> >> Best, >> Kevin Liu >> >> On Wed, Jun 4, 2025 at 3:07 PM Denny Lee <denny.g....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey Kevin, >>> >>> Prior to PMC private mailing / ASF trademark, perhaps we can start a >>> conversation with the iceberg-rust >>> <https://github.com/JanKaul/iceberg-rust> crate folks? >>> >>> It looks like the project is active and perhaps we can discuss with them >>> the goals to figure out the best way to leverage each others' work while >>> also ensuring folks know the difference between projects (which may require >>> renaming). I've had this happen to a number of other Rust and Python-based >>> projects due to the excitement and faster code development cycles. >>> >>> WDYT? >>> Denny >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2025 at 3:00 PM Kevin Liu <kevinjq...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> I was working on the iceberg-rust 0.5.1 release and noticed a few >>>> crates on crates.io that seem to be unofficial implementations or >>>> releases of iceberg-rust. >>>> >>>> For example, the official Apache iceberg-rust repo is published under >>>> the ` <https://crates.io/crates/iceberg>iceberg` >>>> <https://crates.io/crates/iceberg> crate. But there’s also a crate >>>> called ` <https://crates.io/crates/iceberg-rust>iceberg-rust` >>>> <https://crates.io/crates/iceberg-rust> that points to a different >>>> repo outside the Apache org. >>>> There are a few other crates following a similar pattern. >>>> >>>> I want to start this thread to raise awareness of the issue and figure >>>> out the appropriate path for trademark usage. Let me know if I should >>>> forward this to the PMC private mailing list and/or the apache trademark >>>> email. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Kevin Liu >>>> >>> >>
