Hello,
I'll do it. Was just waiting for more replies in this thread and replies in
the parquet-dev mailing list regarding the default behavior.

Best regards,
André Rosa


On Wed, Oct 1, 2025 at 12:01 AM huaxin gao <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Andre,
> Do you want to open a PR to add write.parquet.bloom-filter
> -ndv.column.<col> to configure NDV? I am happy to do it too.
>
> Thanks,
> Huaxin
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 10:02 AM André Rosa <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Huaxin,
>> I'll start a new thread on parquet-dev.
>> Thank you,
>> André Rosa
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 5:39 PM huaxin gao <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks André for raising this!
>>> +1 to adding write.parquet.bloom-filter-ndv.column.<col> to configure
>>> NDV. For the “FPP without NDV” case, let’s defer to the Parquet community
>>> (error vs ignore vs default NDV); Iceberg will follow their decision. Would
>>> you like to start a thread on parquet-dev, or I’m happy to do it?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Huaxin
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 3:46 AM André Rosa <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>> while working on a parquet writer, I found an issue related to the
>>>> bloom filter table properties.
>>>>
>>>> Currently, the iceberg specification
>>>> <https://iceberg.apache.org/docs/latest/configuration/#write-properties>
>>>> defines 3 table properties for configuring bloom filters:
>>>>
>>>> write.parquet.bloom-filter-enabled.column.col1
>>>>
>>>> (not set)
>>>>
>>>> Hint to parquet to write a bloom filter for the column: 'col1'
>>>>
>>>> write.parquet.bloom-filter-max-bytes
>>>>
>>>> 1048576 (1 MB)
>>>>
>>>> The maximum number of bytes for a bloom filter bitset
>>>>
>>>> write.parquet.bloom-filter-fpp.column.col1
>>>>
>>>> 0.01
>>>>
>>>> The false positive probability for a bloom filter applied to 'col1'
>>>> (must > 0.0 and < 1.0)
>>>>
>>>> Looking at the parquet-java implementation
>>>> <https://github.com/apache/parquet-java/blob/36a5f9cf8c1ce2c19631a0ec376665c5e41ea215/parquet-column/src/main/java/org/apache/parquet/column/impl/ColumnValueCollector.java#L179-L192>,
>>>> the fpp value for a given column is ignored if the ndv for that column is
>>>> not specified.
>>>>
>>>> Being that the iceberg spec does not define a property for this and
>>>> that there is no default, the implementation always ignores the fpp
>>>> property and uses the bloom-filter-max-bytes as the exact size instead
>>>> <https://github.com/apache/parquet-java/blob/299b0aea128645312badc329479920ddf8736577/parquet-column/src/main/java/org/apache/parquet/column/values/bloomfilter/BlockSplitBloomFilter.java#L205-L217>
>>>> (if the bloom filter is enabled for the column).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My proposal is to define a new table property
>>>> 'write.parquet.bloom-filter-ndv.column.col1' in the spec to enable
>>>> configuring the ndv to use.
>>>>
>>>> In addition, it also should be discussed if not specifying the ndv but
>>>> specifying the fpp should be a config "error" (or simply ignored like
>>>> parquet-java is doing) or if it should use a default ndv instead.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think should be done regarding this?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> André Rosa
>>>>
>>>

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