I am not convinced that the performance degradation is only due to the new
change that fixes the incorrect behavior. To my knowledge, there is also a
drop in memory-only mode. Can someone explain why do we have such a drop?

D.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:08 AM, Vladimir Ozerov <voze...@gridgain.com>
wrote:

> 16% looks perfectly ok to me provided that we compare correct
> implementation with incorrect one.
>
> вт, 10 апр. 2018 г. в 18:24, Dmitriy Setrakyan <d...@gridgain.com>:
>
> > Ilya, can we find out why pure in-memory scenario also had a performance
> > drop and which commit caused it? It should not be affected by changes in
> > persistence at all.
> >
> > D.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:56 AM, Ilya Suntsov <isunt...@gridgain.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Igniters,
> > >
> > > Looks like commit:
> > >
> > > d0adb61ecd9af0d9907e480ec747ea1465f97cd7 is the first bad commit
> > > > commit d0adb61ecd9af0d9907e480ec747ea1465f97cd7
> > > > Author: Ivan Rakov <ivan.glu...@gmail.com>
> > > > Date:   Tue Mar 27 20:11:52 2018 +0300
> > > >     IGNITE-7754 WAL in LOG_ONLY mode doesn't execute fsync on
> > checkpoint
> > > > begin - Fixes #3656.
> > >
> > >
> > > was the cause of performance drop ( > 10% vs AI 2.4.0) on the following
> > > benchmarks (LOG_ONLY):
> > >
> > >    - atomic-put  (16 %)
> > >    - atomic-putAll (14 %)
> > >    - tx-putAll (11 %)
> > >
> > > As I understand it is greater than initial assessment.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > 2018-03-27 20:13 GMT+03:00 Dmitry Pavlov <dpavlov....@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > Ivan, sure :)
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for this contribution, merged to master.
> > > >
> > > > вт, 27 мар. 2018 г. в 20:08, Ivan Rakov <ivan.glu...@gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > Dmitry,
> > > > >
> > > > > Firstly PR contained dirty fix for performance measurement, but now
> > it
> > > > > contains good fix. :) Sorry for inconvenience.
> > > > > I've renamed the PR.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > Ivan Rakov
> > > > >
> > > > > On 27.03.2018 19:40, Dmitry Pavlov wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Eduard, thank you for review.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Ivan,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm confused on PR naming
> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/3656
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Could you rename?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > >
> > > > > > вт, 27 мар. 2018 г. в 19:38, Eduard Shangareev <
> > > > > eduard.shangar...@gmail.com
> > > > > >> :
> > > > > >> Ivan, I have reviewed your changes, looks good.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 2:56 PM, Ivan Rakov <
> > ivan.glu...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Igniters,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I've completed development of https://issues.apache.org/jira
> > > > > >>> /browse/IGNITE-7754. TeamCity state is ok. Please, review my
> > > changes.
> > > > > >>> Please note that it will be possible to track time of WAL fsync
> > on
> > > > > >>> checkpoint begin by *walCpRecordFsyncDuration *metric in
> > > "Checkpoint
> > > > > >>> started" message.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Also, I've created https://issues.apache.org/
> > > jira/browse/IGNITE-8057
> > > > > >> with
> > > > > >>> description of possible further improvement of WAL fsync on
> > > > checkpoint
> > > > > >>> begin.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Best Regards,
> > > > > >>> Ivan Rakov
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On 26.03.2018 23:45, Valentin Kulichenko wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> Ivan,
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> It's all good then :) Thanks!
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> -Val
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 1:50 AM, Ivan Rakov <
> > > ivan.glu...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Val,
> > > > > >>>>> There's no any sense to use WalMode.NONE in production
> > > environment,
> > > > > >> it's
> > > > > >>>>> kept for testing and debugging purposes (including possible
> > user
> > > > > >>>>> activities
> > > > > >>>>> like capacity planning).
> > > > > >>>>> We already print a warning at node start in case WalMode.NONE
> > is
> > > > set:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> U.quietAndWarn(log,"Started write-ahead log manager in NONE
> > mode,
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> persisted data may be lost in " +
> > > > > >>>>>>        "a case of unexpected node failure. Make sure to
> > > deactivate
> > > > > the
> > > > > >>>>>> cluster before shutdown.");
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Best Regards,
> > > > > >>>>> Ivan Rakov
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> On 24.03.2018 1:40, Valentin Kulichenko wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Dmitry,
> > > > > >>>>>> Thanks for clarification. So it sounds like if we fix all
> > other
> > > > > modes
> > > > > >> as
> > > > > >>>>>> we
> > > > > >>>>>> discuss here, NONE would be the only one allowing
> corruption.
> > I
> > > > also
> > > > > >>>>>> don't
> > > > > >>>>>> see much sense in this and I think we should clearly state
> > this
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > >>>>>> doc,
> > > > > >>>>>> as well print out a warning if NONE mode is used.
> Eventually,
> > if
> > > > > it's
> > > > > >>>>>> confirmed that there are no reasonable use cases for it, we
> > can
> > > > > >>>>>> deprecate
> > > > > >>>>>> it.
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> -Val
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 3:26 PM, Dmitry Pavlov <
> > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Hi Val,
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> NONE means that the WAL log is disabled and not written at
> > all.
> > > > Use
> > > > > >> of
> > > > > >>>>>>> the
> > > > > >>>>>>> mode is at your own risk. It is possible that restore state
> > > after
> > > > > the
> > > > > >>>>>>> crash
> > > > > >>>>>>> at the middle of checkpoint will not succeed. I do not see
> > much
> > > > > sence
> > > > > >>>>>>> in
> > > > > >>>>>>> it, especially in production.
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> BACKGROUND is full functional WAL mode, but allows some
> delay
> > > > > before
> > > > > >>>>>>> flush
> > > > > >>>>>>> to disk.
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Sincerely,
> > > > > >>>>>>> Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> сб, 24 мар. 2018 г. в 1:07, Valentin Kulichenko <
> > > > > >>>>>>> valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> I agree. In my view, any possibility to get a corrupted
> > storage
> > > > is
> > > > > a
> > > > > >>>>>>> bug
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> which needs to be fixed.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> BTW, can someone explain semantics of NONE mode? What is
> the
> > > > > >>>>>>>> difference
> > > > > >>>>>>>> from BACKGROUND from user's perspective? Is there any
> > > particular
> > > > > use
> > > > > >>>>>>>> case
> > > > > >>>>>>>> where it can be used?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> -Val
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 2:49 AM, Dmitry Pavlov <
> > > > > >> dpavlov....@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi Ivan,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> IMO we have to add extra FSYNCS for BACKGROUND WAL.
> Agree?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> пт, 23 мар. 2018 г. в 12:23, Ivan Rakov <
> > > ivan.glu...@gmail.com
> > > > >:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Igniters, there's another important question about this
> > > matter.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Do we want to add extra FSYNCS for BACKGROUND WAL mode?
> I
> > > > think
> > > > > >> that
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > >>>>>>>> have to do it: it will cause similar performance drop, but
> > if
> > > we
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> consider LOG_ONLY broken without these fixes, BACKGROUND
> is
> > > > > broken
> > > > > >> as
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> well.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Ivan Rakov
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On 23.03.2018 10:27, Ivan Rakov wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Fixes are quite simple.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I expect them to be merged in master in a week in worst
> > > case.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Ivan Rakov
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On 22.03.2018 17:49, Denis Magda wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Ivan,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> How quick are you going to merge the fix into the
> > master?
> > > > Many
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> persistence
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> related optimizations have already stacked up.
> Probably,
> > > we
> > > > > can
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> release
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> them sooner if the community agrees.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Denis
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 5:22 AM, Ivan Rakov <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> ivan.glu...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks all!
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> We seem to have reached a consensus on this issue.
> I'll
> > > > just
> > > > > >> add
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> fsyncs under IGNITE-7754.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan Rakov
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22.03.2018 15:13, Ilya Lantukh wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 for fixing LOG_ONLY. If current implementation
> > doesn't
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> protect
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> data
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> corruption, it doesn't make sence.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 10:38 PM, Denis Magda <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dma...@apache.org>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> +1 for the fix of LOG_ONLY
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 11:23 AM, Alexey Goncharuk <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alexey.goncha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 for fixing LOG_ONLY to enforce corruption safety
> > > given
> > > > > the
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provided
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance results.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-03-21 18:20 GMT+03:00 Vladimir Ozerov <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voze...@gridgain.com
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> +1 for accepting drop in LOG_ONLY. 7% is not that much
> and
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> not a
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> at
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all, provided that we fixing a bug. I.e. should we
> > > > > implement
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> in the first place we would never notice any "drop".
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not understand why someone would like to use
> > > > current
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mode.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Dmitry Pavlov
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dpavlov....@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, I think option 1 is better. As Val said any
> > mode
> > > > that
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allows
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corruption
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> does not make much sense.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What Ivan mentioned here as drop, in relation to
> > old
> > > > > mode
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DEFAULT
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (FSYNC
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> now), is still significant perfromance boost.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ср, 21 мар. 2018 г. в 17:56, Ivan Rakov <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ivan.glu...@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> I've attached benchmark results to the JIRA ticket.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> We observe ~7% drop in "fair" LOG_ONLY_SAFE mode,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> independent
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> WAL
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> compaction enabled flag. It's pretty significant drop:
> > WAL
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compaction
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself gives only ~3% drop.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see two options here:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Change LOG_ONLY behavior. That implies that
> > we'll
> > > > be
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> release
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> AI 2.5 with 7% drop.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Introduce LOG_ONLY_SAFE, make it default, add
> > > > release
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> note
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to AI
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> 2.5
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we added power loss durability in default
> > mode,
> > > > but
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fallback to previous LOG_ONLY in order to retain
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> performance.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan Rakov
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20.03.2018 16:00, Ivan Rakov wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Val,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If a storage is in
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrupted state, does it mean that it needs to
> > be
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> completely
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cluster needs to be restarted without data?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, there's a chance that in LOG_ONLY all
> local
> > > data
> > > > > >> will
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lost,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> but only in *power loss**/ OS crash* case.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kill -9, JVM crash, death of critical system
> thread
> > > and
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> cases that usually take place are variations of *process
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crash*.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> WAL modes (except NONE, of course) ensure
> > corruption-safety
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process crash.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, I'm not sure any mode
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that allows corruption makes much sense to me.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It depends on performance impact of enforcing
> > > > > >> power-loss
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corruption
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> safety. Price of full protection from power
> loss
> > is
> > > > > high
> > > > > >> -
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FSYNC
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> way slower (2-10 times) than other WAL modes. The
> question
> > is
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensuring weaker guarantees (corruption can't
> > happen,
> > > > but
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loss
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> updates can) will affect performance as badly as strong
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guarantees.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll share benchmark results soon.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan Rakov
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20.03.2018 5:09, Valentin Kulichenko wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guys,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we understand under "data corruption"
> > > here?
> > > > > If
> > > > > >> a
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> storage
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrupted state, does it mean that it needs to
> be
> > > > > >> completely
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cluster needs to be restarted without data? If
> so,
> > > I'm
> > > > > not
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> mode
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that allows corruption makes much sense to me.
> How
> > > am
> > > > I
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> use a
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> database, if virtually any failure can end with
> > > > complete
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loss of
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any case, this definitely should not be a
> > > default
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behavior.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> user ever
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switches to corruption-unsafe mode, there should
> > be
> > > a
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warning
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> about
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Val
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Ivan Rakov <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ivan.glu...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ticket to track changes:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-7754
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan Rakov
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16.03.2018 10:58, Dmitriy Setrakyan
> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 12:55 AM, Ivan
> Rakov <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ivan.glu...@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vladimir,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unlike BACKGROUND, LOG_ONLY provides strict
> > write
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guarantees
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless power
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> loss has happened.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seems like we need to measure performance
> > > > > difference
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> whether do
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we need separate WAL mode. If it will be
> > > invisible,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we'll
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> fix
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bugs without introducing new mode; if it will be
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perceptible,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we'll
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue the discussion about introducing
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOG_ONLY_SAFE.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Makes sense?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, this sounds like the right approach.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Ilya Suntsov
> > > email: isunt...@gridgain.com
> > > *GridGain Systems*
> > > www.gridgain.com
> > >
> >
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