I am not sure I can agree. SG redesign includes: - hot redeployment - versioning
In my experience, features like these take about 1 month to test properly and fix all the bugs, including redeployment tests and restart tests on larger topologies, together with overnight runs. If this type of testing has not been performed, I think it would be unreasonable to expect this feature making it into the release. Can someone comment on the testing? D. On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 10:38 AM Dmitriy Pavlov <dpavlov....@gmail.com> wrote: > Nikolay, because I think you're a do'er, but not a commenter, like me, for > example, I can trust your opinion. > > I will join review if I have spare cycles. > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 20:34, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>: > > > Nikolay, > > > > Thanks for stepping in and giving more context. In general, I'm fully for > > your proposal below: > > > > My vote goes to option *a*. > > > I think we should release 2.7 with the bunch of new cool features. > > > *AND* we should plan 2.8 release at the end of the year with SG > redesign > > > and MVCC stabilization tasks. > > > > > > -- > > Denis > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 10:30 AM Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > Hello, Igniters. > > > > > > I think we shouldn't put so many emotions in discussion of any > > > contribution. > > > Even so big and important as SG redesign. > > > > > > The crucial point we all agreed about: Service Grid redesign a big > > feature > > > that can significally improve Ignite. > > > We all want to have it in the product. > > > > > > Let me write my vision of the current task state: > > > > > > 1. Design of SG is discussed *and aligned* both: privately with Ignite > > > experts(Vladimir Ozerov, Alexey Goncharyuk, Anton Vinogradov, Denis > > > Mekhanikov) > > > and publicly on dev-list. This task is done. > > > > > > 2. Current PR state - *on my review*. > > > I spend some time with this contribution and gave Vyacheslav a > feedback. > > > I expect he can fix my comments in a day or two. > > > Seem we can ask of Anton Vinogradov review on the beginning of next > week. > > > > > > If Dmitriy or any community member wants to help *by doing things, not > > > discussing them on dev-list*. > > > Please, join to the review - you are welcome. PR is here [1] > > > > > > 3. I think, we have two mutually exclusive options regarding of release > > > 2.7 > > > a. We release 2.7 in planned dates. > > > b. We include SG in release scope. > > > > > > My vote goes to option *a*. > > > I think we should release 2.7 with the bunch of new cool features. > > > *AND* we should plan 2.8 release at the end of the year with SG > redesign > > > and MVCC stabilization tasks. > > > > > > Anyway, while we preparing release a lot of things can happen. > > > Let's come back to discussion of SG release version *when it will be > > ready > > > to be merged to master*. > > > > > > Guys, does it makes sense for you? > > > > > > [1] https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/4434 > > > > > > В Пт, 28/09/2018 в 19:47 +0300, Dmitriy Pavlov пишет: > > > > Hi Dmitriy, > > > > > > > > The design is aligned totally. The thread you mention was not named > > > > properly. > > > > > > > > It seems to me some community members are trying to take over the > > > community > > > > and lead it instead of doing. > > > > > > > > As a member of the Apache community, I value Do-ocracy and power of > > those > > > > who do, but not just disagree. There are no leaders in open source, > > just > > > > do'ers. > > > > > > > > By do'ers here I mean Nikolay and Vyacheslav. For me, their > conclusion > > > has > > > > more weight here. If Vladimir is ready to lead an additional release > > for > > > SG > > > > and SG developers agree, it works for me. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 19:39, Dmitriy Setrakyan < > dsetrak...@apache.org > > >: > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy, > > > > > > > > > > We agreed in the beginning of this thread that Service Grid changes > > > are not > > > > > going to make the release because the community still did not > approve > > > the > > > > > design. Nothing has changed since. I have not seen any design > > > discussions. > > > > > At this point, I have no confidence that the Service Grid changes > > will > > > make > > > > > it into the 2.8 release. The 2.7 release seems out of question > > > altogether. > > > > > > > > > > Also, Nikolay is a release manager. We should let him drive the > > > release. To > > > > > my knowledge, he is doing a great job and the release is going > > > according to > > > > > the schedule he proposed. > > > > > > > > > > D. > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 4:31 AM Dmitriy Pavlov < > > dpavlov....@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dmitriy, Vladimir, > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest we stop this nonsense with release dates-pushing > because > > of > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > open question. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just because you disagreed with any include/exclude something > into > > > scope, > > > > > > does not mean that whole community disagreed. > > > > > > > > > > > > If folks will start a separate discussion with results of the > > > review, I > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > no reasons to reject their contribution, even if we need to > revisit > > > our > > > > > > agreements and wait for a couple of days more. > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing some reason why dates are so fundamentally important > > to > > > you? > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 12:20, Dmitriy Setrakyan < > > > dsetrak...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > If services is not ready, which it is not, then we should > include > > > them > > > > > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > the next release. There is no need to force them into 2.7. I > > > suggest we > > > > > > > move according to the schedule we all agreed on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 1:22 AM Dmitriy Pavlov < > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, so correct statement is "community did not make any > > > decisions > > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > services not go to 2.7/ services are out of scope". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so, please forgive me my confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 11:19, Vladimir Ozerov < > > > voze...@gridgain.com > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly. So correct statement is “it is up to *community* > to > > > decide > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whether > > > > > > > > > something goes to 2.7”. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 11:11, Dmitriy Pavlov < > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, it is up to the community to discuss after their > review > > > > > > > > > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 11:09, Vladimir Ozerov < > > > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I read your words correctly that it is up to > > > implementor > > > > > > > > > > of a > > > > > > > > > single > > > > > > > > > > > feature to decide whether release of all other features > > and > > > > > > > > > > fixes > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > delayed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 11:00, Dmitriy Pavlov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point we can wait a bit for services because > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 we are open-minded and we don't have outside > > pressure > > > to > > > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > October > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 and services it is not some new feature, which > > > suddenly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > appeared > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > autumn, it is a well known and important feature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it is up to Vyacheslav, Anton and Nikolay to > decide. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Decisions can be services are not ready/ready to > merge > > > only > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > master/ready > > > > > > > > > > > > to merge to master and to 2.7. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 10:46, Vladimir Ozerov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitry, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Community agreement was to perform the release in > > > October. > > > > > > > > > > Of > > > > > > > > > course > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > > > wait a bit for services. Then we wait a bit for > other > > > cool > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > features > > > > > > > > > > > ready > > > > > > > > > > > > > by that time, then again and again, and release > will > > > never > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > happen. > > > > > > > > > > And > > > > > > > > > > > > > while we are waiting for new features to come, > > already > > > > > > > > > > > > > > completerd > > > > > > > > > > > > features > > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot be used by anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is why we have an agreement that if feature is > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > ready, > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > moved to future release, instead of shifting > release. > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > > sole > > > > > > > > > reason > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > have strict dates when decisions are made is to let > > > release > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 2:22 AM Dmitriy Pavlov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vladimir, I'm not searching for enemy, and not > > > fighting > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > happy about cases when we are hurrying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can't fix test, fill ticket details, can't > wait > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contributions > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > finish their tasks. It is not best idea to use > > > > > > > > > > experience > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > commercial > > > > > > > > > > > > > > companies in open source. Are there any pressure > > > outside > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > community? > > > > > > > > > > > Did > > > > > > > > > > > > > > someone promised rest of features to be released > at > > > 30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > September? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's remember principle do-orcracy, power of > those > > > who > > > > > > > > > > do. > > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > > > > > contribor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does change and reviewer does review, let's give > > > right of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > > > > > decision > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to them, but not to some closed club of people > who > > > > > > > > > > > > privately > > > > > > > > > > discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 27 сент. 2018 г., 23:42 Vyacheslav Daradur < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > daradu...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Igniters! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As I have written about Service Grid before [1] > > I'm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > finalizing > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solution to be sure that implementation is > > > reliable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > About including it in 2.7, if we talk that code > > > freeze > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tomorrow > > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the solution is not ready to merge yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope that prereviewers Anton Vinogradov and > > > Nikolay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Izhikov > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > able to answer if solution out of scope or not > > in a > > > > > > > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Apache-Ignite-2-7-release-td34076.html#a34485 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 11:14 PM Dmitriy > Pavlov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I agree, NPE during WAL flush is > > definitely > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blocker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is strange why the current test set did > not > > > fail > > > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > commit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 27 сент. 2018 г. в 21:45, Andrey > Kuznetsov > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stku...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've bumped into a new bug in WAL manager > > > recently, > > > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > [1]. > > > > > > > > > > It > > > > > > > > > > > > > looks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > critical enough, and can be a good > candidate > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > fixing > > > > > > > > > > before > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you agree? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9731 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 27 сент. 2018 г. в 19:45, Dmitriy > Pavlov > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need Vhyacheslav's opinion to be > > absolutely > > > > > > > > > > sure > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > > status > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We never committed to dates of release, > as > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > > > > quite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what can mean 'the community committed to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing/releasing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > About SG, I also concerned why such a big > > > feature > > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > quite a > > > > > > > > > > > > few > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussions on the list. But it is > another > > > story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 27 сент. 2018 г. в 19:33, Vladimir > > > Ozerov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please stop looking for enemies > > everywhere. > > > > > > > > > > Just > > > > > > > went > > > > > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thread > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and search for "service" word. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:30 PM Denis > > > Magda < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dma...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Denis, as PMC Chair, could you > please > > > > > > > > > > control, > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > Service > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inclusion/exclusion is discussed > > > properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > according > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's fine when > committers/contributors > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > private > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > related > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a feature they've been working on. > Not > > > > > > > > > > > > everything > > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > list. Otherwise, it will be > inundated. > > > > > > > > > > However, > > > > > > > > > agree, > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > architectural > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and release decisions need to be done > > > > > > > > > > publicly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Speaking about Service Grid, there > was > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion > > > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > saw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > questionable whether it gets added to > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Vladislav*, could you please shed > some > > > light > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > status of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > service grid? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 9:12 AM > Dmitriy > > > > > > > > > > Pavlov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, let's wait for feedback from SG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Author(s)/Reviewer(s) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first. If > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not ready, ok. But I thought it is > > > almost > > > > > > > > > > > > done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I apologize if I missed some > > > discussion (it > > > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > happen), > > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > According to the statement "our > > current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agreement" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can suspect some members are > making > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > private > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agreements, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do not to discuss it on the list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's build consensus here first, > and > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > > name > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > > > > agreement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Denis, as PMC Chair, could you > please > > > > > > > > > > control, > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > Service > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inclusion/exclusion is discussed > > > properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > according > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 27 сент. 2018 г. в 18:55, > > Vladimir > > > > > > > > > > Ozerov > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an outcome of current > state > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > Service > > > > > > > > > Grid - > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ready. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never committed to have it to > 2.7. > > > Our goal > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > try > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > include > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.7. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 6:48 PM > > > Dmitriy > > > > > > > > > > > > Pavlov > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please provide a > > > reference to > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > thread? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Probably I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > missed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 27 сент. 2018 г. в 18:46, > > > Vladimir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ozerov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our current agreement is that > > > Service > > > > > > > > > > > > Grid > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > huge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feature, which hasn't entered > > > review > > > > > > > > > > > > stage > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > far, > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > able to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > review/fix/test it properly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 6:32 > PM > > > Dmitriy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pavlov > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree, and I prefer four > > > weeks for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stabilization* > > > > > > > > > > > > > (1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oct - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 29 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oct) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do I understand it > correctly: > > > Service > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grid > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > still > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scope, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > isn't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it? I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > find it very important. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 27 сент. 2018 г. в > 18:28, > > > Nikolay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Izhikov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizhi...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, Vova. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for clear > release > > > status. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm +1 for your proposal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 27 сент. 2018 г., > 18:25 > > > Alexey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kuznetsov > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > akuznet...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vova, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Huge +1 to do a > > > stabilization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexey Kuznetsov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrey Kuznetsov. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, Vyacheslav D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
