Hi Nikolay, Thank you for announcing that we entered this new stage of release. I believe it is a paramount thing to keep community members posted.
BTW, this link worked for me https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=(project%20%3D%20'Ignite'%20AND%20fixVersion%20is%20not%20empty%20AND%20fixVersion%20in%20('2.7')%20AND%20status%20NOT%20IN%20(Resolved%2C%20Closed)%20and%20component%20!%3D%20documentation%20)%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20 I noticed that we have 5 MVCC tickets to 2.7 still not assigned. I hope contributors will assign these tickets. Sincerely, Dmitriy Pavlov пн, 1 окт. 2018 г. в 18:17, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>: > Hello, Igniters. > > I announce scope freeze for an Apache Ignite 2.7 release. > > It means: > > 1. We add to 2.7 only critical bugs. > 2. We merge to 2.7 branch only previously announces features. > 3. I expect we should exclude or *MERGE ALL TASKS FOR 2.7 DUE TO OCTOBER > 10*. > So the *October 10 is DEADLINE* for new features. > > Thoughts? > > For now we have 34 In Progress tickets planned to 2.7 version [1]. > So is you assigned to any of this ticker friendly reminder #1, *the > deadline is near :)*. > > [1] > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8803?jql=(project%20%3D%20%27Ignite%27%20AND%20fixVersion%20is%20not%20empty%20AND%20fixVersion%20in%20(%272.7%27)%20AND%20status%20NOT%20IN%20(Resolved%2C%20Closed)%20and%20component%20!%3D%20documentation%20)%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20 > > > > В Пн, 01/10/2018 в 16:13 +0300, Andrey Gura пишет: > > Agree with Andrey. > > > > IGNITE-9723 will be merged to ignite-2.7 branch soon. > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 3:56 PM Andrey Kuznetsov <stku...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > > > There is an inaccuracy in critical worker termination detection, and > I'm > > > working on a fix right now, see [1]. Also, we have trivial yet > important > > > fix [2], this one is ready to merge. > > > > > > I deem both should get to 2.7. Any objections? > > > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9744 > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9723 > > > > > > пн, 1 окт. 2018 г. в 13:13, Dmitriy Pavlov <dpavlov....@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > > > We can consider this thread as an almost healthy discussion about SG > > > > inclusion to 2.7. > > > > > > > > For the future, I encourage all Igniters to discuss things before > agreement > > > > on dev.list instead of trying to log 'some pre-build agreements' > here. BTW > > > > such logged 'agreements' are not always valid. > > > > > > > > Dev list is not a log of community actions; it is the principal > place where > > > > discussion runs. I sincerely hope all similar decisions will be > building on > > > > the dev list. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > вс, 30 сент. 2018 г. в 10:49, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > Hello, guys. > > > > > > > > > > I moved SG tasks to 2.8. > > > > > > > > > > В Сб, 29/09/2018 в 17:11 +0300, Vladimir Ozerov пишет: > > > > > > I fully support Dmitry's concerns. I do not see a single chance > for > > > > > > > > > > Service > > > > > > Grid to be included into 2.7 scope, but we are still keeping hope > > > > > > > > alive. > > > > > > What for? Our experience shows, that any feature involving > consensus > > > > > > algorithms typically take weeks to be finalized after initial > public > > > > > > review. Yes, it is possible that at some day in October we will > see it > > > > > > completed, but what about testing? What about regressions with > other > > > > > > components? Let me reming you that from Monday a lot of efforts > will be > > > > > > > > > > put > > > > > > into project stabilization. This is the sole purpose of that > > > > > > > > pre-release > > > > > > phase. Accepting a patch with deep rework of Ignite internals in > the > > > > > > > > > > middle > > > > > > of that process, means that our effrots will be lost. This is > simply a > > > > > > matter of respect to contributor's time. > > > > > > > > > > > > Another problem is that this false hope puts us at rush. Rush > during > > > > > > design, development, review, testing. Result is known - bad > features, > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > makes damage to the project. > > > > > > > > > > > > So my question is - why don't we just want to move it to AI 2.8 > right > > > > > > > > > > now? > > > > > > Feature is big, feature is very far from being ready. This simple > > > > > > > > action > > > > > > immediately shifts the focus from dates to quality of the > product, and > > > > > > remove any risks that potential merge will defeat stabilization > effrots > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > other contributors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 8:32 AM Vyacheslav Daradur < > > > > > > > > daradu...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hot redeployment and versioning will not be implemented in > phase 1, > > > > > > > but it is scheduled once it is finished. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is an umbrella ticket [1] to track phase 1 scope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It includes very few new features, but we completely rework > component > > > > > > > to improve guarantees to be more reliable and we build the > base for > > > > > > > new features. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9607 > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 9:38 PM Dmitriy Setrakyan < > > > > > > > > > > dsetrak...@apache.org> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure I can agree. SG redesign includes: > > > > > > > > - hot redeployment > > > > > > > > - versioning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my experience, features like these take about 1 month to > test > > > > > > > > > > properly > > > > > > > > and fix all the bugs, including redeployment tests and > restart > > > > > > > > tests > > > > > on > > > > > > > > larger topologies, together with overnight runs. If this > type of > > > > > > > > > > testing > > > > > > > > has not been performed, I think it would be unreasonable to > expect > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > feature making it into the release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can someone comment on the testing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 10:38 AM Dmitriy Pavlov < > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikolay, because I think you're a do'er, but not a > commenter, > > > > > > > > like > > > > > me, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > example, I can trust your opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will join review if I have spare cycles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 20:34, Denis Magda < > dma...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikolay, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for stepping in and giving more context. In > general, I'm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully for > > > > > > > > > > your proposal below: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My vote goes to option *a*. > > > > > > > > > > > I think we should release 2.7 with the bunch of new > cool > > > > > > > > > > features. > > > > > > > > > > > *AND* we should plan 2.8 release at the end of the > year with > > > > > > > > SG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > redesign > > > > > > > > > > > and MVCC stabilization tasks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 10:30 AM Nikolay Izhikov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nizhi...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, Igniters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we shouldn't put so many emotions in > discussion of > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > contribution. > > > > > > > > > > > Even so big and important as SG redesign. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The crucial point we all agreed about: Service Grid > redesign > > > > > > > > a > > > > > big > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feature > > > > > > > > > > > that can significally improve Ignite. > > > > > > > > > > > We all want to have it in the product. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me write my vision of the current task state: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Design of SG is discussed *and aligned* both: > privately > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ignite > > > > > > > > > > > experts(Vladimir Ozerov, Alexey Goncharyuk, Anton > Vinogradov, > > > > > > > > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > > > Mekhanikov) > > > > > > > > > > > and publicly on dev-list. This task is done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Current PR state - *on my review*. > > > > > > > > > > > I spend some time with this contribution and gave > Vyacheslav > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > I expect he can fix my comments in a day or two. > > > > > > > > > > > Seem we can ask of Anton Vinogradov review on the > beginning > > > > > > > > of > > > > > next > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > week. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Dmitriy or any community member wants to help *by > doing > > > > > > > > > > things, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > discussing them on dev-list*. > > > > > > > > > > > Please, join to the review - you are welcome. PR is > here [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. I think, we have two mutually exclusive options > regarding > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > > > 2.7 > > > > > > > > > > > a. We release 2.7 in planned dates. > > > > > > > > > > > b. We include SG in release scope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My vote goes to option *a*. > > > > > > > > > > > I think we should release 2.7 with the bunch of new > cool > > > > > > > > > > features. > > > > > > > > > > > *AND* we should plan 2.8 release at the end of the > year with > > > > > > > > SG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > redesign > > > > > > > > > > > and MVCC stabilization tasks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, while we preparing release a lot of things can > > > > > > > > happen. > > > > > > > > > > > Let's come back to discussion of SG release version > *when it > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > ready > > > > > > > > > > > to be merged to master*. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guys, does it makes sense for you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/4434 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > В Пт, 28/09/2018 в 19:47 +0300, Dmitriy Pavlov пишет: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dmitriy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The design is aligned totally. The thread you > mention was > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > named > > > > > > > > > > > > properly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me some community members are trying to > take > > > > > > > > > > over the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > community > > > > > > > > > > > > and lead it instead of doing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a member of the Apache community, I value > Do-ocracy and > > > > > > > > > > power > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > > who do, but not just disagree. There are no leaders > in open > > > > > > > > > > > > > > source, > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > do'ers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By do'ers here I mean Nikolay and Vyacheslav. For > me, their > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > conclusion > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > more weight here. If Vladimir is ready to lead an > > > > > > > > additional > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > SG > > > > > > > > > > > > and SG developers agree, it works for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 19:39, Dmitriy Setrakyan < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dsetrak...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We agreed in the beginning of this thread that > Service > > > > > > > > Grid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changes > > > > > > > > > > > are not > > > > > > > > > > > > > going to make the release because the community > still did > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > approve > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > design. Nothing has changed since. I have not seen > any > > > > > > > > > > design > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > At this point, I have no confidence that the > Service Grid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changes > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > > > > > > it into the 2.8 release. The 2.7 release seems out > of > > > > > > > > > > question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > altogether. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, Nikolay is a release manager. We should let > him > > > > > > > > > > drive the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release. To > > > > > > > > > > > > > my knowledge, he is doing a great job and the > release is > > > > > > > > > > going > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > according to > > > > > > > > > > > > > the schedule he proposed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 4:31 AM Dmitriy Pavlov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dmitriy, Vladimir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest we stop this nonsense with release > > > > > > > > > > dates-pushing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just because you disagreed with any > include/exclude > > > > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > scope, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does not mean that whole community disagreed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If folks will start a separate discussion with > results > > > > > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > review, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no reasons to reject their contribution, even if > we > > > > > > > > need > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > revisit > > > > > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agreements and wait for a couple of days more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing some reason why dates are so > fundamentally > > > > > > > > > > > > > > important > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 12:20, Dmitriy Setrakyan < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dsetrak...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If services is not ready, which it is not, > then we > > > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > include > > > > > > > > > > > them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the next release. There is no need to force > them into > > > > > > > > > > 2.7. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > suggest we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > move according to the schedule we all agreed > on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 1:22 AM Dmitriy Pavlov > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, so correct statement is "community did > not > > > > > > > > make > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decisions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > services not go to 2.7/ services are out of > scope". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so, please forgive me my confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 11:19, Vladimir > Ozerov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly. So correct statement is “it is up > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *community* > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > decide > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whether > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something goes to 2.7”. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 11:11, Dmitriy > Pavlov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, it is up to the community to discuss > after > > > > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > review > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 11:09, Vladimir > Ozerov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I read your words correctly that > it is up > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implementor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > single > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feature to decide whether release of > all > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > features > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fixes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delayed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 11:00, Dmitriy > Pavlov > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point we can wait a bit for > services > > > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 we are open-minded and we don't > have > > > > > > > > > > outside > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pressure > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > October > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 and services it is not some new > feature, > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suddenly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > appeared > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > autumn, it is a well known and > important > > > > > > > > > > feature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it is up to Vyacheslav, Anton and > > > > > > > > Nikolay > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decide. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Decisions can be services are not > > > > > > > > > > ready/ready to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > merge > > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > master/ready > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to merge to master and to 2.7. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 10:46, > Vladimir > > > > > > > > > > Ozerov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitry, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Community agreement was to perform > the > > > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > October. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > course > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wait a bit for services. Then we > wait a > > > > > > > > > > bit for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > cool > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > features > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ready > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by that time, then again and > again, and > > > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > never > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while we are waiting for new > features to > > > > > > > > > > come, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > completerd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > features > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot be used by anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is why we have an agreement > that if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feature is > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ready, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moved to future release, instead of > > > > > > > > > > shifting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release. > > > > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have strict dates when decisions > are made > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to let > > > > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 2:22 AM > Dmitriy > > > > > > > > > > Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vladimir, I'm not searching for > enemy, > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > fighting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > happy about cases when we are > hurrying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can't fix test, fill ticket > details, > > > > > > > > > > can't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wait > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contributions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > finish their tasks. It is not > best > > > > > > > > idea > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experience > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > commercial > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > companies in open source. Are > there any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pressure > > > > > > > > > > > outside > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > community? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > someone promised rest of > features to be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > released > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > 30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > September? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's remember principle > do-orcracy, > > > > > > > > > > power of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contribor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does change and reviewer does > review, > > > > > > > > > > let's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > right of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decision > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to them, but not to some closed > club of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > privately > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 27 сент. 2018 г., 23:42 > Vyacheslav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Daradur < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > daradu...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Igniters! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As I have written about > Service Grid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before [1] > > > > > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > finalizing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solution to be sure that > > > > > > > > > > implementation is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reliable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > About including it in 2.7, if > we talk > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > code > > > > > > > > > > > freeze > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tomorrow > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the solution is not ready to > merge > > > > > > > > yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope that prereviewers Anton > > > > > > > > > > Vinogradov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > Nikolay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Izhikov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > able to answer if solution out > of > > > > > > > > > > scope or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Apache-Ignite-2-7-release-td34076.html#a34485 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 11:14 > PM > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pavlov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I agree, NPE during WAL > flush > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > definitely > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blocker. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is strange why the > current test > > > > > > > > > > set > > > > > > > > > > > > > > did > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > fail > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > commit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 27 сент. 2018 г. в 21:45, > > > > > > > > Andrey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kuznetsov > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stku...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've bumped into a new bug > in WAL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manager > > > > > > > > > > > recently, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > looks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > critical enough, and can > be a > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > candidate > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fixing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you agree? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9731 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 27 сент. 2018 г. в > 19:45, > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need Vhyacheslav's > opinion to > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > absolutely > > > > > > 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About SG, I also > concerned why > > > > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a big > > > > > > > > > > > feature > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quite a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > few > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussions on the list. > But it > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > > > story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 27 сент. 2018 г. в > 19:33, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vladimir > > > > > > > > > > > Ozerov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please stop looking for > > > > > > > > enemies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > went > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thread > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and search for > "service" > > > > > > > > word. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 > at 7:30 > > > > > > > > PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > > > Magda < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dma...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Denis, as PMC > Chair, > > > > > > > > could > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > control, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Service > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inclusion/exclusion is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussed > > > > > > > > > > > properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > according > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's fine when > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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Otherwise, it > will be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inundated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agree, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > architectural > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and release > decisions need > > > > > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > publicly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Speaking about > Service > > > > > > > > Grid, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > questionable whether > it > > > > > > > > gets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > added to > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Vladislav*, could > you > > > > > > > > please > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shed > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > light > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > status of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > service grid? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 > at > > > > > > > > 9:12 > > > > > AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pavlov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, let's wait for > > > > > > > > feedback > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from SG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Author(s)/Reviewer(s) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first. 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