Roman,

I've filed a ticket for C++: [1]

[1] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11027

Best Regards,
Igor


On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 12:55 PM Roman Shtykh <rsht...@yahoo.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Igor, I see. How about having a warning if `BinaryConfiguration` is not
> provided explicitly to at least raise attention? And creating a JIRA issue
> for C++ clients -- after it resolves we can probably switch it to cluster
> default.
>
> --
> Roman Shtykh
>
>     On Monday, January 21, 2019, 7:04:30 p.m. GMT+9, Igor Sapego <
> isap...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>  I believe, it was set to false by default as it was kind of experimental
> optimisation.
> Also, I've checked right now and it seems that C++ clients (thick and
> thin)do not yet support compact footers. It may also be a blocker to set
> compactfooters to true by default.
> Best Regards,Igor
>
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 6:52 AM Roman Shtykh <rsht...@yahoo.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the explanation. But here is the problem is not exactly with
> deserialization but with that a user-defined key is being marshalled to a
> binary object with the compact footer set to true, while the key for
> putting has the footer set to false (which is server default). Thus we have
> a different thing for the key when we try to retrieve and getting null.
> Therefore, I suppose switching client to server defaults is what has to be
> done. If the user decides to switch to full schema mode, at least he/she
> will be aware of it. And for deserialization, the schema will be retrieved,
> as you explained. What do you think?
>
> -- Roman
>     On Friday, January 18, 2019, 10:52:11 p.m. GMT+9, Vladimir Ozerov <
> voze...@gridgain.com> wrote:
>
>  "Compact footer" is optimization which saves a lot of space. Object
> serialized in this form do not have the full information required for
> deserialization. Metadata necessary for deserialization (aka "schema") is
> located on cluster nodes. For this client it could be requested through
> special command. Pleass see ClientOperation.GET_BINARY_TYPE as a starting
> point.
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 1:32 PM Igor Sapego <isap...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure, that such a change should be done in minor release, maybe in
> 3.0
> Vova, what do you think? It was you, who designed and developed compact
> footer, right?
> Best Regards,Igor
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 4:20 AM Roman Shtykh <rsht...@yahoo.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > I believe it has something to do with backward compatibility.That's what
> I would like to know.If there's no strong reason to set it to false, it
> should be as Ignite's default -- that's what a user would expect. And if
> the user changes the configuration at the cluster, he/she will be aware of
> that and change it at thin client.If we cannot set it to Ignite's default,
> we can add a log message saying we force it to false.
>
> --
> Roman
>
>
>     On Thursday, January 17, 2019, 7:11:05 p.m. GMT+9, Igor Sapego <
> isap...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>  First of all, I do not like that thin client is silently returns null. It
> should be fixed.
> For the compact footer being set to false by default - I believe it has
> something to do withbackward compatibility.
> Best Regards,Igor
>
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 7:37 AM Roman Shtykh <rsht...@yahoo.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> Igniters,
> After putting some data with a user-defined key with a thick client, it's
> impossible to retrieve it with a thin client.
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-10960(I was not sure it was
> a bug, so I first reported the issue to the user ml, Mikhail thanks for
> checking and the jira issue)
> That happens because for Ignite `compactFooter` is `true` by default, but
> `ClientBinaryMarshaller` forces it to `false` if `BinaryConfiguration` is
> not created explicitly (see ClientBinaryMarshaller#createImpl).
> Any reason to force it to false? I would like to align it with Ignite
> defaults (by setting to true).
>
> -- Roman
>
>
>
>
>

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