It's hard to believe that compact footers are not supported, as it was one
of critical performance optimizations we implemented more than 4 years ago
:-)
If it is really so, we should prioritize the fix.

On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 3:28 PM Igor Sapego <isap...@apache.org> wrote:

> Roman,
>
> I've filed a ticket for C++: [1]
>
> [1] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11027
>
> Best Regards,
> Igor
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 12:55 PM Roman Shtykh <rsht...@yahoo.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Igor, I see. How about having a warning if `BinaryConfiguration` is not
> > provided explicitly to at least raise attention? And creating a JIRA
> issue
> > for C++ clients -- after it resolves we can probably switch it to cluster
> > default.
> >
> > --
> > Roman Shtykh
> >
> >     On Monday, January 21, 2019, 7:04:30 p.m. GMT+9, Igor Sapego <
> > isap...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >  I believe, it was set to false by default as it was kind of experimental
> > optimisation.
> > Also, I've checked right now and it seems that C++ clients (thick and
> > thin)do not yet support compact footers. It may also be a blocker to set
> > compactfooters to true by default.
> > Best Regards,Igor
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 6:52 AM Roman Shtykh <rsht...@yahoo.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for the explanation. But here is the problem is not exactly
> with
> > deserialization but with that a user-defined key is being marshalled to a
> > binary object with the compact footer set to true, while the key for
> > putting has the footer set to false (which is server default). Thus we
> have
> > a different thing for the key when we try to retrieve and getting null.
> > Therefore, I suppose switching client to server defaults is what has to
> be
> > done. If the user decides to switch to full schema mode, at least he/she
> > will be aware of it. And for deserialization, the schema will be
> retrieved,
> > as you explained. What do you think?
> >
> > -- Roman
> >     On Friday, January 18, 2019, 10:52:11 p.m. GMT+9, Vladimir Ozerov <
> > voze...@gridgain.com> wrote:
> >
> >  "Compact footer" is optimization which saves a lot of space. Object
> > serialized in this form do not have the full information required for
> > deserialization. Metadata necessary for deserialization (aka "schema") is
> > located on cluster nodes. For this client it could be requested through
> > special command. Pleass see ClientOperation.GET_BINARY_TYPE as a starting
> > point.
> > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 1:32 PM Igor Sapego <isap...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure, that such a change should be done in minor release, maybe
> in
> > 3.0
> > Vova, what do you think? It was you, who designed and developed compact
> > footer, right?
> > Best Regards,Igor
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 4:20 AM Roman Shtykh <rsht...@yahoo.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I believe it has something to do with backward compatibility.That's
> what
> > I would like to know.If there's no strong reason to set it to false, it
> > should be as Ignite's default -- that's what a user would expect. And if
> > the user changes the configuration at the cluster, he/she will be aware
> of
> > that and change it at thin client.If we cannot set it to Ignite's
> default,
> > we can add a log message saying we force it to false.
> >
> > --
> > Roman
> >
> >
> >     On Thursday, January 17, 2019, 7:11:05 p.m. GMT+9, Igor Sapego <
> > isap...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >  First of all, I do not like that thin client is silently returns null.
> It
> > should be fixed.
> > For the compact footer being set to false by default - I believe it has
> > something to do withbackward compatibility.
> > Best Regards,Igor
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 7:37 AM Roman Shtykh <rsht...@yahoo.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Igniters,
> > After putting some data with a user-defined key with a thick client, it's
> > impossible to retrieve it with a thin client.
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-10960(I was not sure it was
> > a bug, so I first reported the issue to the user ml, Mikhail thanks for
> > checking and the jira issue)
> > That happens because for Ignite `compactFooter` is `true` by default, but
> > `ClientBinaryMarshaller` forces it to `false` if `BinaryConfiguration` is
> > not created explicitly (see ClientBinaryMarshaller#createImpl).
> > Any reason to force it to false? I would like to align it with Ignite
> > defaults (by setting to true).
> >
> > -- Roman
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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