Ilya, Anton.
It means that not if TLS 1.3 is worked ok and with TLS < 1.2 is not ok.

When TLS 1.3 is introduced, whole sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl was
rewritten.
There is not any code anymore that could cause a deadlock.
Therefore, in JDK, that supports TLS 1.3, this option is unnecessary, even
if you use TLS 1.2


пт, 30 окт. 2020 г. в 14:46, Anton Vinogradov <a...@apache.org>:

> Ilya
> > I think we should still keep setting linger if SSL is enabled
> Modern (updated) JVMs do not require this.
> AFAIK, Problem caused this workaround already fixed everywhere, including
> JDK 8.
>
> > If SSL only works with TLSv1.3 and no linger
> SSL works if
> -- TLSv1.3 with any linger
> -- TLSv1.2- with linger>0
>
> > we should make TLSv1.3 a
> > default. If JVM does not support it, users will have to reconfigure
> > explicitly.
> I don't think it's a good idea to reconfigure production environments this
> way.
>
> P.s.
> My +1 to zero linger as default + warning on SSL enabled on JVM before the
> fix + warning at documentation + migration notes
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 2:19 PM Ilya Kasnacheev <ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hello!
> >
> > I think we should still keep setting linger if SSL is enabled, and not
> > expect user to enable it (or face consequences).
> >
> > If SSL only works with TLSv1.3 and no linger, we should make TLSv1.3 a
> > default. If JVM does not support it, user will have to reconfigure
> > explicitly.
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Ilya Kasnacheev
> >
> >
> > пт, 30 окт. 2020 г. в 14:05, Steshin Vladimir <vlads...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > *
> > >
> > > Hi, Igniters.
> > >
> > > We’ve found that enabled by default socket linger causes unexpected
> > > delay in detection of node failure.
> > >
> > >
> > > Moreover, long closing of socket works as Thread.sleep() within
> > > algorithms of failure detection and connection recovery in TCP
> > > discovery. These time gaps lead to hardly predictable behavior of the
> > > discovery. When the socket linger is enabled, it’s hard or even
> > > impossible to figure out what time is taken to detect node failure and
> > > restore connections with the provided settings.
> > >
> > > Socket linger was enabled only as a workaround for SSL bugs (i.e. [2],
> > > [3]). It was enabled without including in failure processing routines
> in
> > > TCP discovery SPI as described above. SSL bugs, mentioned above, were
> > > fixed and backported to various JDK, supporting TLS 1.3 ([4] and [5]).
> > >
> > >
> > > I’d suggest to disable socket linger by default, because enabled socket
> > > linger prolongs detection of node failure. The ticket is [1]. In case
> of
> > > SSL issues the linger could be enabled. Or one may just update JDK.
> > > We'll provide the documentation.
> > >
> > > WDYT?
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-13643
> > >
> > > [2] https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8219658
> > >
> > > [3]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12818
> > >
> > > [4]https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8245468
> > >
> > > [5]
> https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/javase/8u261-relnotes.html
> > >
> > > *
> > >
> >
>


-- 
Sincerely yours, Ivan Daschinskiy

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