Hmm. I'm not sure I understand. As far as I understand, any vote here
is unanimous, but not majority. I.e., if anyone in community has
objections, vote is declined (already not a democracy, right? :) ). If so,
I really don't see any difference between "consensus is recorded by no
objections
being raised" and "consensus is recorded by the vote being passed".

There should be a moment of time when the change in the process is applied.
What if I really don't care how branching is organized, but just want to
write code? In this case I would like to have the process documented and,
if there are any changes, to know when they come into play. IMHO, closed
vote can be a good formal indicator for this.

Are you against any formal procedures per se, or I'm missing something in
this particular case?

-Val

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Konstantin Boudnik <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> --
> Regards,
>   Cos
>
> On June 8, 2015 1:20:56 PM GMT+03:00, "Branko Čibej" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >On 07.06.2015 18:00, Konstantin Boudnik wrote:
> >> I'm with Brane on this one (unlike git cherry picking ;). Vote is a
> >tool to
> >> record a consensus reached via a discussion/collaboration.
> >
> >No, it's not, that's exactly my point: Consensus is recorded by no
> >objections being raised on the appropriate mailing list (dev@ for
> >public
> >discussions) during a reasonable amount of time. You do *not* vote to
> >"record consensus". Voting is a formal procedure that is either
> >mandated
> >by legal requirements (e.g., for releases) or used when consensus
> >cannot
> >be reached -- and in the latter case, it should not be used because ASF
> >communities do not operate by majority rule.
>
> That's exactly what I said: it isn't democracy (sorry for using this word
> in a polite company).
>
> >Cos, I expected better from you. :)
>
> Sorry to disappoint you ;)
>

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