I'm supportive of removing them.

-- Philip

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 10:06 AM Tim Armstrong
<tarmstr...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:

> Hi Edward,
>   I was talking about write support, specifically. Reading those formats is
> supported without any configuration changes.
>
> - Tim
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 9:32 AM, Edward Capriolo <edlinuxg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I was going to say. Not a current user ATM, but there are defiantly
> people
> > with text+gzip SequenceFile(Text). It is nice to be able to work with
> > those, I was also at a shop that went hard for AVRO + Impala but since
> > switched off.
> >
> > I also do not understand what is meant by "behind a query option" since
> the
> > version of Impala I had (CDH 5+6) would process all the above formats.
> >
> > Edward
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:59 AM, Lars Volker <l...@cloudera.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'm in favor of removing unsupported code, especially when doing so
> makes
> > > development of the rest of the codebase easier and saves us cycles for
> > > maintaining it. On the other hand it would suck if users had come to
> rely
> > > on it and we break it, even though we recommend against it.
> > >
> > > We could make a reasonable effort to discover any users of the feature,
> > > e.g. by asking on user@ and by folks on this list checking other
> > > communication channels they might have access to.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Lars
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 8:26 AM Tim Armstrong
> > > <tarmstr...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I don't think we need to bump a major version to remove something
> that
> > we
> > > > never claimed to support though. The docs are pretty clear:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > https://impala.apache.org/docs/build/html/topics/impala_
> > > allow_unsupported_formats.html
> > > >
> > > > "An obsolete query option from early work on support for file
> formats.
> > Do
> > > > not use. Might be removed in the future."
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 10:16 PM, Jim Apple
> > <jbap...@cloudera.com.invalid
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > As for the time zone case, I’d like to be careful about versioning.
> > If
> > > we
> > > > > remove Avro, that seems like a breaking changedeserving of a major
> > > > version
> > > > > bump.
> > > > >
> > > > > It might be worth taking a survey wider than dev@. User@ or the
> > > > customers
> > > > > of Impala packagers might be good places to start.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 5:10 PM Tim Armstrong
> > > > > <tarmstr...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > For a few years now we've had write support for Sequence, Avro
> and
> > > > > > compressed text hidden behind a query option. We haven't really
> > made
> > > > any
> > > > > > progress on turning it into a supported feature, so I'm wondering
> > if
> > > we
> > > > > > should remove the code and save some overhead of building,
> testing
> > > and
> > > > > code
> > > > > > maintenance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know I've found it useful once or twice to generate test data
> > but I
> > > > > don't
> > > > > > think this is enough to justify maintaining it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It seems like we should get it out of this in-between state -
> > either
> > > > > delete
> > > > > > the code or get it to the point where it's supported and tested.
> If
> > > we
> > > > > > delete it, it's always possible for someone to resurrect it
> later.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What do people think?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Tim
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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