Hey,

I agree with Quanlong. It's increasingly difficult for me to keep up
with what's new, having a short version of the release notes with a
summary for each item (about the intent and impact, if not trivial
from the jira summary) would be useful. For example, KRPC was turned
on by default in 2.12 having a major impact on the scalability and
performance for most large scale users, but shows up as a bug called
'KRPC milestone 1'. :)
It'd be great to be able to read through a page at most and have a
good idea of what actually happened in a release, from a functionality
and user point of view.

Jeszy

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 1:50 PM Quanlong Huang <huangquanl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Gabor,
>
> IMO, the change log is too detailed to be readable for users. There're no
> any highlights. It's hard for users to find significant changes. A
> summarized doc about new features and significant bug fixes (not any fixes
> for tests) will be more useful for them. Something like these:
>  - https://kudu.apache.org/docs/release_notes.html
>  -
> https://www.cloudera.com/documentation/enterprise/release-notes/topics/cdh_rn_new_in_cdh_516.html
>
> However, the "Kudu 1.9.0 Release Notes" we pasted above looks like a draft.
> I think if we do so, we still need a document writer to polish and
> reorganize the doc.
>
> Thanks,
> Quanlong
>
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 8:23 PM Gabor Kaszab <gaborkas...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey,
> >
> > I recently had some time to give a second thought on the release notes doc
> > idea proposed above. The link Quanlong attached brings me to this doc that
> > contains a reduced list of features/bug fixes/ improvements and another
> > reduced list of the short descriptions of these:
> >
> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eeL4sfXvRxHvA7PcUw3SH2vA_5grb9-kRtL06Kzm5Cw/edit
> >
> > We already have an official release notes that contain a list of all the
> > changes in the release where you are one click away from reading the
> > details of a particular change.
> > https://impala.apache.org/docs/changelog-3.1.html
> >
> > All in all, currently I don't see the added value of creating another
> > release notes document. Any comments on this?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Gabor
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 10:32 AM Gabor Kaszab <gaborkas...@cloudera.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It wasn't late, no problem. I added it to the release alongside with the
> > > doc changes from Alex.
> > > I consider now the release content final and I move on with the next
> > steps
> > > of the release creation.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Gabor
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 8:18 PM Thomas Tauber-Marshall <
> > > tmarsh...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> If its not too late, it would be great to include this fix:
> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMPALA-8299
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 5:38 AM Gabor Kaszab <gaborkas...@cloudera.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > (Sorry, accidentally sent out the mail too early)
> > >> > - Alex sent in a number of doc commits covering changes that are
> > already
> > >> > in, so I'll include them as well:
> > >> >     - 76286bf2c0320cce0eb1bf0c269d344255b4dd0e IMPALA-7974
> > >> >     - 9cc75c59d5a09bd8cccc98bdf05cc64a98a70ffd IMPALA-8133
> > >> >     - 535d286ee16721a35bda1861e4d011ea99a8c02f IMPALA-8067
> > >> >     - 0d3d3258d2762887c61bf8e64e5df33dc2419817 IMPALA-8298
> > >> >     - 668bb73e1153afcb50ffc8b45267232b926a2258 IMPALA-7974
> > >> >     - ca98d6649d700517e90359d39c94d3356c6c092e IMPALA-7718
> > >> >
> > >> > Alex, I see 2 doc changes remaining according to your list. Do you
> > feel
> > >> > they can get to the repo in the next 1-2 days? I can wait for them,
> > >> then.
> > >> > IMPALA-8296
> > >> > IMPALA-8297
> > >> >
> > >> > If no other request comes in until then, then I'll take the above
> > >> mentioned
> > >> > as the content of the 3.2.0 release and advance with the next steps of
> > >> > release creation.
> > >> >
> > >> > Cheers,
> > >> > Gabor
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:18 PM Gabor Kaszab <
> > gaborkas...@cloudera.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hey,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Just for the record I gather the requests and conclusions here in
> > one
> > >> > mail:
> > >> > > - It's fine to cut at 9686545bfd7236350d165813621bf783b42d1c18
> > >> > IMPALA-6503:
> > >> > > Support reading complex types from ORC
> > >> > > <
> > >> >
> > >>
> > https://github.com/apache/impala/commit/9686545bfd7236350d165813621bf783b42d1c18
> > >> > >
> > >> > >  (inclusive)
> > >> > > - As Csaba requested, I'll
> > >> > > include 26639963e0ea66bea716c0238cdf1ff086159c7c IMPALA-8300 to
> > >> correct a
> > >> > > test issue introduced by the commit right above.
> > >> > > - Alex sent in a number of doc commits covering changes that are
> > >> already
> > >> > > in, so I'll include them as well:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 6:54 PM Alexandra Rodoni <
> > >> arod...@cloudera.com>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> I have 10 doc tickets for 3.2. Out of 18, 4 in progress, and 3
> > still
> > >> > open.
> > >> > >> The rest is done.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> *In progress: *
> > >> > >> IMPALA-8133
> > >> > >> IMPALA-8296
> > >> > >> IMPALA-8297
> > >> > >> IMPALA-7974
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> *Open:*
> > >> > >> IMPALA-8067
> > >> > >> IMPALA-7718
> > >> > >> IMPALA-8298
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Thanks.
> > >> > >> alex
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 6:33 AM Gabor Kaszab <
> > >> gaborkas...@cloudera.com>
> > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> > Thanks for the feedback!
> > >> > >> > No objections came agains the release so let me continue with the
> > >> next
> > >> > >> > steps. I see that the ORC complex types just got into the repo
> > so I
> > >> > >> propose
> > >> > >> > to cut the release there (inclusive):
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > 9686545 IMPALA-6503: Support reading complex types from ORC
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > In case there is anything before this commit that you are not
> > sure
> > >> and
> > >> > >> > prefer to omit from the release please let me know. Similarly, if
> > >> > there
> > >> > >> is
> > >> > >> > anything that is not ready but is right around the corner and you
> > >> > >> insist to
> > >> > >> > include it to the release, let me know.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > From doc's perspective I'm curious how far we are from having
> > >> coverage
> > >> > >> for
> > >> > >> > the proposed changes.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > Having a release notes doc is a good idea. Once we agree on the
> > >> > content
> > >> > >> > I'll create one and share it with the community so that each
> > >> > contributor
> > >> > >> > can fill in their change's description.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > Cheers,
> > >> > >> > Gabor
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 11:28 PM Tim Armstrong <
> > >> > tarmstr...@cloudera.com>
> > >> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > > +1 - what Jim said!
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:53 AM Jim Apple <jbap...@cloudera.com
> > >
> > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > > +1 to both a release and a habit of curated release notes as
> > >> > >> Quanlong
> > >> > >> > > > suggests.
> > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 6:54 AM Quanlong Huang <
> > >> > >> huangquanl...@gmail.com
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > +1. Thanks for your volunteer!
> > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > If we decide to release, could we manage a doc that
> > everyone
> > >> can
> > >> > >> > write
> > >> > >> > > > down
> > >> > >> > > > > his/her notable works in this version? Got this idea from
> > the
> > >> > Kudu
> > >> > >> > > > > community and feel it very helpful:
> > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >>
> > >> >
> > >>
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8a10a4d244369f43b97c79513f13766c393a98252d3a2dade7611cc3@%3Cdev.kudu.apache.org%3E
> > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > Thanks,
> > >> > >> > > > > Quanlong
> > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:18 PM Gabor Kaszab <
> > >> > >> > gaborkas...@cloudera.com
> > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > > Hey,
> > >> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > > 3.1.0 has been released at the beginning of December and
> > I
> > >> > feel
> > >> > >> > that
> > >> > >> > > > since
> > >> > >> > > > > > then there are a number of bug fixes and improvements
> > >> checked
> > >> > >> in.
> > >> > >> > > > > > What do you think about releasing 3.2.0 soon? I volunteer
> > >> as a
> > >> > >> > > release
> > >> > >> > > > > > manager in case no one is against.
> > >> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > > Cheers,
> > >> > >> > > > > > Gabor
> > >> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >

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