Hi Kevin, I probably didn't phrase that thought well. I don't think that the core framework will ever be written in anything other than Java... to change that would be a big decision indeed.
All I'm suggesting now is to provide a new archetype that would let folk write their apps in kotlin if they wanted. Hope that helps, Dan. On Sun, 24 Sep 2017, 10:36 Kevin Meyer <ke...@kmz.co.za> wrote: > Hi all, > > Let me voice my concerns and you can tell me if they're valid or not. > > I fully appreciate that "a better Java experience" is a goal that we aim > to satisfy. > > A major selling-point of Apache Isis is that it relieves the developer of > *a lot of* mundane stuff that they really don't need to worry about (UI, > DB access, etc). > > However, *I* don't want Apache Isis to be locked into anything other than > Java [a]. > > What does "switch to" Kotlin mean? Will it require any change to existing > user projects? Will all our users be happy to add Kotlin support to their > projects to continue using Isis? > > Of course, whoever wants to can develop and provide whatever resources > they want to users (and announce them on the users mailing list) - as long > as the licensing remains Apache and there is no commercial advertising. > > But the *core* Apache Isis infrastructure should continue to be usable by > the wider Java community. > > Thoughts? > > Cheers, > Kevin > > > [a] This is *my* desire. If the community says it wants to move, then > that's fine. We can take that discussion to the users list at the > appropriate time. > > > On Fri, September 22, 2017 11:42, Dan Haywood wrote: > > Hi Kev, > > > > To switch topic a little (but not much)... what we all really want is a > > "better Java", in syntax if nothing else. (Those who know me will know > > what I'm about to say next ...) there's a good argument to advocating and > > ultimately switching to use Kotlin. I did manage to port the simpleapp > > to Kotlin a year or so ago, it worked fine. As a first pass, I'm > thinking > > of adding a new Kotlin archetype, perhaps initially as part of the Incode > > Platform rather than in Apache Isis proper. > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > Cheers > > Dan > > -- > Kevin Meyer > Ljubljana, Slovenia > > >
