Hi Dan,

All arguments are good, except I think some part of the website should
be in the same version control of the source.  One thing that I love
about Apache ANT is that I can just download the document for a
certain version and read them offline.

If you want dynamite website like conversation, then BuildMaster is
not the answer.  It does handle file upload, syntax highlighting, css,
JavaScript, though.

Cheers
Shane

On 12/20/06, Dan North <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Troops,

 I've been thinking long and hard about this, and I've made a decision. The
JBehave website is old and tired and dull. Even with Shane's swanky new
builder, we still end up with a static website with not much going on.

 Here's what I want from a website:

 * Easy to edit. Textile and/or wysiwig editing, with the option to drop
into html for the tricky stuff. Ideally role-based, with authors, publishers
and administrators.
 * Low maintenance. I want to focus on content rather than the technology
behind the site. I especially don't want to have to keep "uploading" a new
site.
 * Fast. I don't want people waiting for it.
 * Sexy. Easy to do stuff with CSS and funky javascript things.
 * Dynamic. I want a project blog the team contributes to, and an ongoing
tutorials blog that shows how to use jbehave. I want people to be able to
subscribe to these via RSS. I want it to update the world (via technorati
and friends) when things change. I want people to be able to comment on the
content, and to have strong spam controls over the comments.
 * Code-friendly. It should use something like geshi to syntax highlight the
code.
 * Picture-friendly. Easy to upload and link to images and screenshots.
 * Extensible. There are myriad plugins out there for us to use, which is
all work we don't need to do to get a sexy website. For instance, with one
mouse click I can enable a threaded forum site.

 So, here's where I've got to. I've put a WordPress instance with a
customised theme at http://new.jbehave.org. It has a front page instead of a
blog, so it looks more like a real site, and the other pages are linked in
as well as being displayed on the right. The javadocs and downloads will
live on the codehaus servers as before, and I'll put the theme under source
control.

 I'm very excited about this. It scratches an itch I've had for some time.
I'm especially grateful to the work Sam Newman has done with the DBDeploy
site, and the help he gave me in thinking along these lines.

 Let me know what you think. I'm about ready to put out a 0.9 release in the
next few days unless anyone has any showstoppers you think we need to
resolve, and I'm planning to launch the new site at the same time.

 Happy holidays,
 Dan

 ps. Of course any committers have author access (which gives you one-click
access to edit or create pages) and despots will have admin access.




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Shane
http://www.shaneduan.com

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