Matt, I haven't had time until today to address your comments (and it's
been only around a day, I didn't intend to ignore them :)).

Thanks for taking care of updating the guide in the meanwhile!
 El 20/06/2013 07:09, "Matt Stephenson" <[email protected]> escribió:

> Yeah, looks like moinmoin was case sensitive on my login.  Pinged
> silkysun@who was up and she managed to fix it.  I foolishly didn't
> follow
> instructions when I setup my login, I guess I'll need to find out how to
> fix that at some point.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Andrew Bayer <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > I'm able to edit it, fwiw.
> >
> > A.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Matt Stephenson <[email protected]
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Ignasi,
> > > This page you created is immutable and I cannot edit it.  Please make
> it
> > > writeable to admins.  I would like to clean it up since you're not
> > > responding to my feedback.
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Matt Stephenson <
> [email protected]
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sigh, it's so irritating that we're always writing "Git 101" docs for
> > > > contributor/committer docs.
> > > >
> > > > Lets link to these instead, they're way more instructive :
> > > > https://help.github.com/articles/set-up-git
> > > > https://help.github.com/articles/fork-a-repo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Matt Stephenson <
> > [email protected]
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Also, since we're Commit Then Review, committers don't follow the
> same
> > > >> process as contributors for making changes.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Matt Stephenson <
> > [email protected]
> > > >wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I don't see how it's beneficial to the audience though, and if I'm
> > > >>> looking for that as a committer, I'd rather not scroll to the
> bottom.
> > >  I'd
> > > >>> rather just search for committer guide or something, not
> > contributing.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Ignasi <[email protected]
> > > >wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Thanks for reviewing Matt!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Agree. Modified the text to only require the rebase but leave the
> > > >>>> squash as an optional step.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Regarding the commiters stuff, I personally think it is good to
> have
> > > >>>> just one guide. Commiters specific steps are only at the very end
> of
> > > >>>> the document, and I see no point in having a separate document for
> > > >>>> them. I also like the idea of transparency, and I think it is good
> > > >>>> that people know how we are going to merge their contributions.
> > > >>>> Anyway, this is something we can discuss and take the preferred
> > option
> > > >>>> :)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On 18 June 2013 17:03, Matt Stephenson <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>> > I wouldn't include that all commits need to be squashed, but
> agree
> > > >>>> with
> > > >>>> > rebasing to master.
> > > >>>> > On Jun 18, 2013 8:00 AM, "Matt Stephenson" <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>> >
> > > >>>> >> I'd split the committer's section out  to another page.  If we
> > want
> > > >>>> a page
> > > >>>> >> that gets a contributor to the point of having a PR, then just
> do
> > > >>>> that.
> > > >>>> >> The rest is for another audience.
> > > >>>> >> On Jun 18, 2013 6:16 AM, "Ignasi" <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>> >>
> > > >>>> >>> I understood that from an email thread where this was
> discussed.
> > > It
> > > >>>> >>> was opened in the private list so I can't paste the link here,
> > but
> > > >>>> >>> your recommendations were:
> > > >>>> >>>
> > > >>>> >>> "Oliver: As long as the contribution is attached to a jira I
> > > >>>> consider
> > > >>>> >>> implicit
> > > >>>> >>> the contributor agree on the Apache license for the code he
> > > provide.
> > > >>>> >>> Perso, when the patch/contribution is very huge (don't ask me
> > > >>>> figures
> > > >>>> >>> in term of lines of code :-) )."
> > > >>>> >>>
> > > >>>> >>> "David: As a general rule submissions to the project (mailing
> > > list,
> > > >>>> >>> Jira, pull request, etc.) are assumed under the terms of the
> ASL
> > > to
> > > >>>> be
> > > >>>> >>> offered under the same license unless explicitly stated
> > otherwise.
> > > >>>> >>> Major contributions might need a CLA, but most patches won't
> > rise
> > > to
> > > >>>> >>> this level in my experience."
> > > >>>> >>>
> > > >>>> >>>
> > > >>>> >>> I understand then, that by default, there is no need to sign
> the
> > > >>>> CLA.
> > > >>>> >>> I'll remove that section from the guide :)
> > > >>>> >>>
> > > >>>> >>> Thanks for checking!
> > > >>>> >>>
> > > >>>> >>>
> > > >>>> >>>
> > > >>>> >>>
> > > >>>> >>>
> > > >>>> >>> On 18 June 2013 14:54, David Nalley <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>>> >>> >> == Contributor license agreement ==
> > > >>>> >>> >>
> > > >>>> >>> >> Before contributing, you may have to sign the [[
> > > >>>> >>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas|Apache ICLA]]. All
> > > >>>> contributions
> > > >>>> >>> and patches attached to a [[
> > > >>>> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCLOUDS|JIRA]] issue
> are
> > > >>>> assumed
> > > >>>> >>> to be under the agreement, so even if small patches and
> changes
> > > may
> > > >>>> not
> > > >>>> >>> require an explicit signature, it is always a good idea to
> have
> > it
> > > >>>> in place.
> > > >>>> >>> >>
> > > >>>> >>> >
> > > >>>> >>> > A signed CLA isn't required by the ASF for patches - is
> there
> > a
> > > >>>> reason
> > > >>>> >>> > the project wishes to require them?
> > > >>>> >>> >
> > > >>>> >>> > --David
> > > >>>> >>>
> > > >>>> >>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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