At one point we had active committers from both the UK and Sweden.
On Jun 20, 2013 10:00 AM, "Ignasi" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Right! It seems that I'm one of the very few people in Europe... Covering
> the most boring hours in the irc channel! :)
> El 20/06/2013 15:54, "Everett Toews" <[email protected]>
> escribió:
>
> > Also, don't forget that Ignasi is in a very different timezone from most
> > of us.
> >
> > You're in Barcelona, right Ignasi?
> >
> > Everett
> >
> > On Jun 20, 2013, at 2:00 AM, Ignasi wrote:
> >
> > > Matt, I haven't had time until today to address your comments (and it's
> > > been only around a day, I didn't intend to ignore them :)).
> > >
> > > Thanks for taking care of updating the guide in the meanwhile!
> > > El 20/06/2013 07:09, "Matt Stephenson" <[email protected]>
> escribió:
> > >
> > >> Yeah, looks like moinmoin was case sensitive on my login.  Pinged
> > >> silkysun@who was up and she managed to fix it.  I foolishly didn't
> > >> follow
> > >> instructions when I setup my login, I guess I'll need to find out how
> to
> > >> fix that at some point.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Andrew Bayer <[email protected]
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I'm able to edit it, fwiw.
> > >>>
> > >>> A.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Matt Stephenson <
> [email protected]
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Ignasi,
> > >>>> This page you created is immutable and I cannot edit it.  Please
> make
> > >> it
> > >>>> writeable to admins.  I would like to clean it up since you're not
> > >>>> responding to my feedback.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Matt
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Matt Stephenson <
> > >> [email protected]
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Sigh, it's so irritating that we're always writing "Git 101" docs
> for
> > >>>>> contributor/committer docs.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Lets link to these instead, they're way more instructive :
> > >>>>> https://help.github.com/articles/set-up-git
> > >>>>> https://help.github.com/articles/fork-a-repo
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Matt Stephenson <
> > >>> [email protected]
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Also, since we're Commit Then Review, committers don't follow the
> > >> same
> > >>>>>> process as contributors for making changes.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Matt Stephenson <
> > >>> [email protected]
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I don't see how it's beneficial to the audience though, and if
> I'm
> > >>>>>>> looking for that as a committer, I'd rather not scroll to the
> > >> bottom.
> > >>>> I'd
> > >>>>>>> rather just search for committer guide or something, not
> > >>> contributing.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Ignasi <
> [email protected]
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thanks for reviewing Matt!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Agree. Modified the text to only require the rebase but leave
> the
> > >>>>>>>> squash as an optional step.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Regarding the commiters stuff, I personally think it is good to
> > >> have
> > >>>>>>>> just one guide. Commiters specific steps are only at the very
> end
> > >> of
> > >>>>>>>> the document, and I see no point in having a separate document
> for
> > >>>>>>>> them. I also like the idea of transparency, and I think it is
> good
> > >>>>>>>> that people know how we are going to merge their contributions.
> > >>>>>>>> Anyway, this is something we can discuss and take the preferred
> > >>> option
> > >>>>>>>> :)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On 18 June 2013 17:03, Matt Stephenson <[email protected]>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> I wouldn't include that all commits need to be squashed, but
> > >> agree
> > >>>>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>> rebasing to master.
> > >>>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2013 8:00 AM, "Matt Stephenson" <
> > >> [email protected]
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I'd split the committer's section out  to another page.  If we
> > >>> want
> > >>>>>>>> a page
> > >>>>>>>>>> that gets a contributor to the point of having a PR, then just
> > >> do
> > >>>>>>>> that.
> > >>>>>>>>>> The rest is for another audience.
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2013 6:16 AM, "Ignasi" <[email protected]>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I understood that from an email thread where this was
> > >> discussed.
> > >>>> It
> > >>>>>>>>>>> was opened in the private list so I can't paste the link
> here,
> > >>> but
> > >>>>>>>>>>> your recommendations were:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> "Oliver: As long as the contribution is attached to a jira I
> > >>>>>>>> consider
> > >>>>>>>>>>> implicit
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the contributor agree on the Apache license for the code he
> > >>>> provide.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Perso, when the patch/contribution is very huge (don't ask me
> > >>>>>>>> figures
> > >>>>>>>>>>> in term of lines of code :-) )."
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> "David: As a general rule submissions to the project (mailing
> > >>>> list,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Jira, pull request, etc.) are assumed under the terms of the
> > >> ASL
> > >>>> to
> > >>>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>>> offered under the same license unless explicitly stated
> > >>> otherwise.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Major contributions might need a CLA, but most patches won't
> > >>> rise
> > >>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>> this level in my experience."
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I understand then, that by default, there is no need to sign
> > >> the
> > >>>>>>>> CLA.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I'll remove that section from the guide :)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for checking!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 18 June 2013 14:54, David Nalley <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> == Contributor license agreement ==
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Before contributing, you may have to sign the [[
> > >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas|Apache ICLA]]. All
> > >>>>>>>> contributions
> > >>>>>>>>>>> and patches attached to a [[
> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCLOUDS|JIRA]] issue
> > >> are
> > >>>>>>>> assumed
> > >>>>>>>>>>> to be under the agreement, so even if small patches and
> > >> changes
> > >>>> may
> > >>>>>>>> not
> > >>>>>>>>>>> require an explicit signature, it is always a good idea to
> > >> have
> > >>> it
> > >>>>>>>> in place.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> A signed CLA isn't required by the ASF for patches - is
> > >> there
> > >>> a
> > >>>>>>>> reason
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project wishes to require them?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> >
>

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