so I've had a look at this and while I think geosparql-jena is a very
welcomed contribution to the jena project I don't think we should rush with
the retirement of  jena-spatial at this point as Greg's approach will
require users to make changes to their existing data.

I will engage Greg on us...@jena.apache.org again to clarify a few things
and hopefully get more people involved in this conversation around spatial,
geosparql and jena.



On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 1:23 PM Marco Neumann <marco.neum...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> how quickly can you hook geosparql into the release?
>
> this would make lucene spatial obsolete in the next release.  has Greg
> released performance benchmarks for his implementation? as I said I will
> take a look at it over the weekend when time permits.
>
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 11:02 AM Andy Seaborne <a...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> We could retire jena-spatial immediately after 3.10.0 - given the Lucene
>> change that might be smoother, one release with updated dependencies.
>>
>> If that is the way forward, I think it is (mildly) better to take it out
>> of the Fuseki/Full build in 3.10.0.
>>
>>      Andy
>>
>> On 29/11/2018 17:00, Marco Neumann wrote:
>> > I will have to look into that I guess since I am frequent user of
>> spatial
>> > data.
>> >
>> > why not go to 7.5? was there an incompatibility?
>> >
>> > On Thu 29. Nov 2018 at 16:53, Andy Seaborne <a...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Jena 3.1.0 would be around the end of the year. I'd like to make use of
>> >> Greg's GeoSPARQL project the "headline" item for the release and to
>> >> retire jena-spatial in 3.10.0 as an indication of this.
>> >>
>> >> Because retirement is a new process for the project, I'm sending this
>> >> first 3.10.0 message quite early to give us discussion time.
>> >>
>> >> == Retirements
>> >>
>> >> We have talked about this before but not actually done anything. See
>> >> separate thread for discussion on retirement process and for the first
>> >> modules:
>> >>
>> >> jena-spatial
>> >> jena-fuseki1
>> >> jena-csv
>> >>
>> >> == Headlines
>> >>
>> >> JENA-664 : GeoSPARQL support
>> >>
>> >> I'd like to make use of Greg's GeoSPARQL project the "headline" item
>> for
>> >> the release and to retire jena-spatial in 3.10.0 as an indication of
>> this.
>> >>
>> >> JENA-1621 : Lucene upgrade to 7.4
>> >>      May need to reload lucene indexes.
>> >> (e.g. the lucene index was create originally with Lucene v5.x (prior
>> >> Jena 3.3.0). See Lucene upgrade tool.
>> >> https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/7_4/indexupgrader-tool.html
>> >>
>> >> JENA-1623 : Fuseki security
>> >> JENA-1627 : HTTP support
>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JENA-1623
>> >>
>> http://jena.staging.apache.org/documentation/fuseki2/data-access-control
>> >>
>> >> == JIRA:
>> >>
>> >> 31 currently.
>> >>
>> >> https://s.apache.org/jena-3.10.0-jira
>> >>
>> >> == Updates
>> >>
>> >> Only plugins. JENA-1624
>> >>
>> >> surefire : 2.21.0 -> 2.22.1 (+ SUREFIRE-1588)
>> >> compiler : 3.7.0 -> 3.8.0
>> >> shade    : 3.1.0 -> 3.2.0
>> >>
>> >>          Andy
>> >>
>>
>
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