I'm all in favor, and in favor of moving the site to git at the same time. 
Indeed, we've discussed that latter before, but done nothing.

Bruno-- I think you had some thoughts about the site question? I seem to 
remember that you did such a migration with another Apache project?

ajs6f

> On Dec 12, 2018, at 8:35 AM, Andy Seaborne <a...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/12/2018 17:19, Chris Tomlinson wrote:
>> Hi Andy,
>> My GH and ASF accounts are linked. As I understand the note from D.Gruno 
>> once jena is moved to GB then we can use either GB or GH or both in our 
>> individual workflows. For me just working with GH would be my choice.
>> I’m not sure how far away 3.10.0 is (I’ve completed all of the pending 
>> jena-text updates for 3.10.0) but maybe it makes sense if that release can 
>> be completed prior to moving from git-wip-us without running into the forced 
>> move beginning on 7 Feb 2019.
> 
> I'd like to avoid a forced move, if nothing else, out of politeness to INFRA 
> because they asked nicely.
> 
>> It would also be helpful to see the docs moved from SVN to GH/GB so we have 
>> a single environment. I think I saw this discussed briefly some time ago but 
>> I don’t recall a resolution.
>> I agree that JIRA integration is key - it appears that it will continue 
>> since JIRA is used to control the migration from git-wip-us and svn.
>> Regards,
>> Chris
>>> On Dec 11, 2018, at 5:37 AM, Andy Seaborne <a...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Committers -
>>> 
>>> Who has the link up for pushing to GH directly?
>>> 
>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/ -> "Link GitHub and ASF accounts"
>>> 
>>>    Andy
>>> 
>>> On 10/12/2018 16:11, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>>>> I confess I don't completely understand the details/changes here
>>>> "either the ASF repository system (gitbox.apache.org) OR GitHub for your 
>>>> development and code pushes"
>>>> unless you can mix-and-match, in case anyone does not want to forced to 
>>>> have a GH account. gitbox.apache.org says "will be granted write-access on 
>>>> both services (gitbox and github)" if you have your GH account linked to 
>>>> your Apache account (which I do).
>>>> The other unclarity is what happens about JIRA integration. We have 
>>>> managed to get people to use JIRA so whatever we may think about it at a 
>>>> technical level, we do have as a communication path.  The Q has been asked 
>>>> on the infra list but no response yet.  The text about either service sort 
>>>> of hints that that if there is an integration, it works on both access 
>>>> points.
>>>> JIRA is useful during a release to find changes since last time. 
>>>> Obviously, GH issues and labels can be used for that but we need to set 
>>>> that up. There again, a clearout of old dead stuff would not be so bad!
>>>> We have a release sometime soon (ish, maybe, whatever) and I think my only 
>>>> issue is controlling the switchover point in time, sooner is better, and 
>>>> otherwise we do it and see what happens.
>>>> For workflow, if we have to fix on one tailored to GH or gitbox.a.o, shall 
>>>> we go GH? If it's both, we can start being more GH on our own timescales.
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> Let's discuss for a few days and if nothing arises, run the vote.
>>>>     Andy
>>>> But please, not go back to SVN :-)
>>>> On 09/12/2018 20:47, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> [IF YOUR PROJECT DOES NOT HAVE GIT REPOSITORIES ON GIT-WIP-US PLEASE
>>>>>    DISREGARD THIS EMAIL; IT WAS MASS-MAILED TO ALL APACHE PROJECTS]
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Apache projects,
>>>>> I am writing to you because you may have git repositories on the
>>>>> git-wip-us server, which is slated to be decommissioned in the coming
>>>>> months. All repositories will be moved to the new gitbox service which
>>>>> includes direct write access on github as well as the standard ASF
>>>>> commit access via gitbox.apache.org.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ## Why this move? ##
>>>>> The move comes as a result of retiring the git-wip service, as the
>>>>> hardware it runs on is longing for retirement. In lieu of this, we
>>>>> have decided to consolidate the two services (git-wip and gitbox), to
>>>>> ease the management of our repository systems and future-proof the
>>>>> underlying hardware. The move is fully automated, and ideally, nothing
>>>>> will change in your workflow other than added features and access to
>>>>> GitHub.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ## Timeframe for relocation ##
>>>>> Initially, we are asking that projects voluntarily request to move
>>>>> their repositories to gitbox, hence this email. The voluntary
>>>>> timeframe is between now and January 9th 2019, during which projects
>>>>> are free to either move over to gitbox or stay put on git-wip. After
>>>>> this phase, we will be requiring the remaining projects to move within
>>>>> one month, after which we will move the remaining projects over.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To have your project moved in this initial phase, you will need:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Consensus in the project (documented via the mailing list)
>>>>> - File a JIRA ticket with INFRA to voluntarily move your project repos
>>>>>     over to gitbox (as stated, this is highly automated and will take
>>>>>     between a minute and an hour, depending on the size and number of
>>>>>     your repositories)
>>>>> 
>>>>> To sum up the preliminary timeline;
>>>>> 
>>>>> - December 9th 2018 -January 9th 2019: Voluntary (coordinated)
>>>>>     relocation
>>>>> - January 9th -February 6th: Mandated (coordinated) relocation
>>>>> - February 7th: All remaining repositories are mass migrated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This timeline may change to accommodate various scenarios.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ## Using GitHub with ASF repositories ##
>>>>> When your project has moved, you are free to use either the ASF
>>>>> repository system (gitbox.apache.org) OR GitHub for your development
>>>>> and code pushes. To be able to use GitHub, please follow the primer
>>>>> at: https://reference.apache.org/committer/github
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> We appreciate your understanding of this issue, and hope that your
>>>>> project can coordinate voluntarily moving your repositories in a
>>>>> timely manner.
>>>>> 
>>>>> All settings, such as commit mail targets, issue linking, PR
>>>>> notification schemes etc will automatically be migrated to gitbox as
>>>>> well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> With regards, Daniel on behalf of ASF Infra.
>>>>> 
>>>>> PS:For inquiries, please reply to us...@infra.apache.org, not your
>>>>> project's dev list :-).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 

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