Thanks Marco!

On 16/04/2019 12:07, Marco Neumann wrote:
FYI quick update on the db-engines.com ranking issue. Today I had a
call with Matthias Gelbmann from solid IT who runs the benchmarks at
db-engines.com together with Paul Andlinger.

After some debate about the Jena design / architecture and negotiation
he promised me to change the ranking conditions for jena again to
include non TDB related signals in the Jena benchmark results. This in
itself should markedly improve ranking again for Jena. The label
"Apache Jena TDB" will for now continue to be used on the site until
some internal review at db-engines.com might change that.

Regards,
Marco


On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 5:53 PM Andy Seaborne <[email protected]> wrote:

Marco - Good investigation.

      Andy

On 07/04/2019 16:24, Marco Neumann wrote:
So using web.archive.org [1] I can track changes to the project name
from "Jena" to "Jena Apache - TDB" in db rankings between the end of
October 2018 and November 2018. Which is also, I presume, the string
that is used to automate the methodology mentioned above. This also
could explain the drop (85->118) in rankings which occurred between
November 2018 and April 2019.

[1] http://web.archive.org/web/*/https://db-engines.com/en/ranking

On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 4:00 PM Marco Neumann <[email protected]> wrote:

:D
certainly prejudice here, or it's a New York thing only.

just to mention their methodology[1] to do the ranking here:

* Number of mentions of the system on websites, measured as number of
results in search engines queries. At the moment, we use Google, Bing
and Yandex for this measurement. In order to count only relevant
results, we are searching for <system name> together with the term
database, e.g. "Oracle" and "database".

* General interest in the system. For this measurement, we use the
frequency of searches in Google Trends.

* Frequency of technical discussions about the system. We use the
number of related questions and the number of interested users on the
well-known IT-related Q&A sites Stack Overflow and DBA Stack Exchange.

* Number of job offers, in which the system is mentioned. We use the
number of offers on the leading job search engines Indeed and Simply
Hired.

* Number of profiles in professional networks, in which the system is
mentioned.We use the internationally most popular professional
networks LinkedIn and Upwork.

* Relevance in social networks. We count the number of Twitter tweets,
in which the system is mentioned.

[1] https://db-engines.com/en/ranking_definition

On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 3:47 PM ajs6f <[email protected]> wrote:

I don't really see in what sense Jena competes with Oracle or MySQL (top two 
listings) or for that matter, Google Cloud Spanner (?), ClickHouse (?), or 
Apache Drill.

I'll admit, I'm a little annoyed by being outranked by something called 
"CockroachDB", but that's probably just a bit of prejudice on my part.

ajs6f

On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:43 AM, Marco Neumann <[email protected]> wrote:

maybe somewhat related. I have noticed that the Jena project was the
biggest loser in the db-engines ranking for the year ending in April
2019.

https://db-engines.com/en/ranking

https://db-engines.com/en/system/Apache+Jena+-+TDB

Jena is now down to place 118 from 85 in April 2018. I have very
briefly discussed this with Andy Seaborne but would like to hear from
dev list members on this and the db ranking in general.

Is there anything we can learn from this that would help us to raise
visibility and recognition of the project? Should the ranking be
ignored?

Marco

On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:36 PM Andy Seaborne <[email protected]> wrote:

FYI: This month we got weevils and hedgehogs.

The report generator puts in default text:

## Issues:
   - TODO - list any issues that require board attention,
    or say "there are no issues requiring board attention at this time"
     -  if not, the weevils will get you.


## Health report:
   - TODO - Please use this paragraph to elaborate on why
     the current project activity (mails, commits, bugs etc) is at its
     current level - Maybe hedgehogs took over and are now controlling
     the project?



-----------------------------

More mundanely:

-----------------------------

## Description:

Jena is a framework for developing Semantic Web and Linked Data
applications in Java. It provides implementation of W3C standards for
RDF and SPARQL.

## Issues:

There are no issues requiring board attention at this time.

## Activity:

The project has continued to evolve the codebase. It is still in the
process of incorporating the significant contribution of a GeoSPARQL,
mainly restricted by PMC members bandwidth.

Elsewhere, a new contribution of metrics support for the Jena Fuseki,
triplestore protocol engine, has been received and the project is
working with the contributor to incorporate that.

Discussion of release 3.11.0 has started.

## Health report:

The project is at normal levels of activity, with JIRA and git pull
requests getting being responded to, and the users list remains active.

## PMC changes:

   - Currently 14 PMC members.
   - Aaron Coburn was added to the PMC on Tue Jan 22 2019

## Committer base changes:

   - Currently 17 committers.
   - No new committers added in the last 3 months
   - Last committer addition was Aaron Coburn at Mon Jun 18 2018

## Releases:

   - Last release was 3.10.0 on Sun Dec 30 2018

## JIRA activity:

   - 45 JIRA tickets created in the last 3 months
   - 31 JIRA tickets closed/resolved in the last 3 months



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