On 22 May 2012 20:18, Philippe Mouawad <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello Milamber,
> My responses below.
> Regards
> Philippe
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Milamber <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Le 21/05/2012 22:12, Philippe Mouawad a ecrit :
>> > Hello,
>> > I read recently this little comparison :
>> > https://github.com/excilys/gatling/wiki/Benchmarks<
>> https://github.com/excilys/gatling/wiki/Benchmark>
>> >
>> > I reviewed the test plan that was used to make the test.
>> > It seems to me the test is little biased:
>> >
>> >    - View Results Tree is in test plan (as it uses a lot of memory, it's
>> a
>> >    big issue)
>> >    - View Results in Table (same thing)
>> >    - 3 Non Standard JMeter listener, so It's not pure JMeter:
>> >       - jp@gc - Transactions per Second
>> >       - jp@gc - Response Times Over Time
>> >       - jp@gc - Active Threads Over Time
>> >    - Default XML output seems to have been used , it's against best
>> >    practices
>> >
>> >
>> > Besides the following conclusions that seem to me non scientific and
>> purely
>> > subjective:
>> >
>> >    - The testers, new to both Gatling and JMeter found that JMeter was
>> >    harder to learn and use than Gatling to create the simulations,
>> despite the
>> >    use of a proxy.
>> >
>> >
>> > I will only look at other ideas expressed:
>> >
>> >    - JMeter creates one thread per user simulated. If there is not enough
>> >    memory allocated to the JVM, it can crash trying to create these
>> threads
>> >       - This need to be detailed, cause either it fails with OOM and it's
>> >       not during thread creation, either it fails with "unable to create
>> new
>> >       native thread"
>> >    - For instance, JMeter could not run 1500 users with 512 MB (what was
>> >    used for Gatling even with 2000 users); OutOfMemoryErrors are
>> recorded in
>> >    the table as *OOM*
>> >       - => I made a Test with up to 2000 Threads with 512 m without any
>> >       crash, it depends on Test and on application
>> >    - Another problem occurred with the 2000 users simulations; it seems
>> >    that JMeter can not simulate more than 1514 users independently from
>> the
>> >    memory that was allocated to the JVM
>> >       - => I made a Test with up to 2000 Threads with 512 m without any
>> >       crash, so assertion is false, it depends on Test and on application
>> >
>> >
>> > As it's difficult to install the application used for test (last version
>> > does not seem to work as expected) , if they provide a working WAR
>> against
>> > a local Postgres DB I will be happy to test with it.
>> > But in current state, application seems to be packaged for cloud or H2
>> > local DB, I didn't want to spend too much time setting up application as
>> I
>> > don't know its real status.
>> >
>> > I just tried to run Test Plan against a blank tomcat to verify what they
>> > say about Thread Creation, I didn't find any issue on this.
>> >
>> > So I decided to make a very simple scenario test on Tomcat Examples (It
>> > goes to Session Example, adds attribute, go back to index, go back to
>> > Session Example, test contains Response assertion for each Request).
>> >
>>
>> Please, indicate the Tomcat version used? it's the same machine? config
>> of tomcat server? tuning of JVM for Tomcat? OS? OS tuning? JVM editor?
>>
>> Tomcat apache-tomcat-6.0.24
> -Xms256m -Xmx1024m
>    <Connector port="8080" protocol="HTTP/1.1"
>
> compressableMimeType="text/html,text/xml,text/plain,text/javascript,application/json"
>                compression="off"
>                socketBuffer="8"
>                maxThreads="400"
>               connectionTimeout="20000"
>               redirectPort="8443" />
> Set session timeout in web.xml  to 1min
> java version "1.6.0_29"
> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_29-b11-402-10M3527)
> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.4-b02-402, mixed mode)
>
> Mac OS 10.6.8
> JMeter  and Tomcat on same machine
> No particular OS Tuning
> 8GO RAM
> No swap, nothing runnning except these 2
> Tomcat CPU around 5%
> Memory around 50 mo
>
> JVM editor/version for your JMeter? OS? OS Tuning (TCP tuning?)?
>>
>> Same config
> No TCP tuning
>
>> Can you post the jmx file?
>>
>> Will it be accepted on this list ?

Best to create a Wiki page and attach the test file there.

>
>> Milamber
>>
>>
>> > It is not at all representative but it is a way for me to check potential
>> > issues in JMeter and performance changes accross versions.
>> >
>> > I ran the test with 1500 VU using JMeter 2.5.1,  2.7 (current trunk) with
>> > -Xmx512m, 10 minutes run and CSV output against a local Tomcat (I restard
>> > tomcat between tests and control its health):
>> >
>> >    - I noticed that current trunk version behaves much better in terms of
>> >    memory than 2.5.1 or 2.6:
>> >       - In 2.5.1 :
>> >       - GC activity is much higher with around 5 GC CPU peaks every 2
>> >          minutes,  and 20 FULL GC of 700 to 800 ms each
>> >          - Throughput: 97,71%
>> >          - Pauses : 13,69s
>> >          - Mém : 391M/min
>> >          - Full GC tend to be much more frequent at end of test
>> >          - 2.7:
>> >          -  no GC CPU peak, 1 FULL GC
>> >          - Throughput:98.54
>> >          - Pauses : 8.9s
>> >          - 1108m /min
>> >          - Summary:
>> >       - 25.1:
>> >          - 164676 samples in 605,1s
>> >          - 272,2/s
>> >          - Avg:    97
>> >          - 2.7:
>> >          - 165367 in 605.0s
>> >          - 273.3/s
>> >          - Avg:   228
>> >          - I also noticed results have a much better look:
>> >       - in 2.5.1, Transactions/s are around 300 / sec during 4 minutes,
>> >       then drop to 200/s, go up to 400/s , then down to 260/s and
>> > finally 200/sec
>> >       - in 2.7, Transactions stay around 300/sec
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Actions:
>> >
>> >    - I think it would be useful to have some reference application on
>> which
>> >    we could test JMeter behaviour
>> >    - What would the best place to put these comparisons ? wiki ? which
>> >    indicators should we put ?
>> >    - Further testing should be done against a richer application that
>> could
>> >    be deployed locally
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Philippe
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Cordialement.
> Philippe Mouawad.

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