On 24 May 2012 22:15, Philippe Mouawad <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello,
> How can I insert image ? button is disabled in GUI mode.
> To insert Test Plan, is it an attachment ?

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> Thanks
> Regards
> Philippe
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:22 AM, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 22 May 2012 20:18, Philippe Mouawad <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hello Milamber,
>> > My responses below.
>> > Regards
>> > Philippe
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Milamber <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Le 21/05/2012 22:12, Philippe Mouawad a ecrit :
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> > I read recently this little comparison :
>> >> > https://github.com/excilys/gatling/wiki/Benchmarks<
>> >> https://github.com/excilys/gatling/wiki/Benchmark>
>> >> >
>> >> > I reviewed the test plan that was used to make the test.
>> >> > It seems to me the test is little biased:
>> >> >
>> >> >    - View Results Tree is in test plan (as it uses a lot of memory,
>> it's
>> >> a
>> >> >    big issue)
>> >> >    - View Results in Table (same thing)
>> >> >    - 3 Non Standard JMeter listener, so It's not pure JMeter:
>> >> >       - jp@gc - Transactions per Second
>> >> >       - jp@gc - Response Times Over Time
>> >> >       - jp@gc - Active Threads Over Time
>> >> >    - Default XML output seems to have been used , it's against best
>> >> >    practices
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Besides the following conclusions that seem to me non scientific and
>> >> purely
>> >> > subjective:
>> >> >
>> >> >    - The testers, new to both Gatling and JMeter found that JMeter was
>> >> >    harder to learn and use than Gatling to create the simulations,
>> >> despite the
>> >> >    use of a proxy.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I will only look at other ideas expressed:
>> >> >
>> >> >    - JMeter creates one thread per user simulated. If there is not
>> enough
>> >> >    memory allocated to the JVM, it can crash trying to create these
>> >> threads
>> >> >       - This need to be detailed, cause either it fails with OOM and
>> it's
>> >> >       not during thread creation, either it fails with "unable to
>> create
>> >> new
>> >> >       native thread"
>> >> >    - For instance, JMeter could not run 1500 users with 512 MB (what
>> was
>> >> >    used for Gatling even with 2000 users); OutOfMemoryErrors are
>> >> recorded in
>> >> >    the table as *OOM*
>> >> >       - => I made a Test with up to 2000 Threads with 512 m without
>> any
>> >> >       crash, it depends on Test and on application
>> >> >    - Another problem occurred with the 2000 users simulations; it
>> seems
>> >> >    that JMeter can not simulate more than 1514 users independently
>> from
>> >> the
>> >> >    memory that was allocated to the JVM
>> >> >       - => I made a Test with up to 2000 Threads with 512 m without
>> any
>> >> >       crash, so assertion is false, it depends on Test and on
>> application
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > As it's difficult to install the application used for test (last
>> version
>> >> > does not seem to work as expected) , if they provide a working WAR
>> >> against
>> >> > a local Postgres DB I will be happy to test with it.
>> >> > But in current state, application seems to be packaged for cloud or H2
>> >> > local DB, I didn't want to spend too much time setting up application
>> as
>> >> I
>> >> > don't know its real status.
>> >> >
>> >> > I just tried to run Test Plan against a blank tomcat to verify what
>> they
>> >> > say about Thread Creation, I didn't find any issue on this.
>> >> >
>> >> > So I decided to make a very simple scenario test on Tomcat Examples
>> (It
>> >> > goes to Session Example, adds attribute, go back to index, go back to
>> >> > Session Example, test contains Response assertion for each Request).
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Please, indicate the Tomcat version used? it's the same machine? config
>> >> of tomcat server? tuning of JVM for Tomcat? OS? OS tuning? JVM editor?
>> >>
>> >> Tomcat apache-tomcat-6.0.24
>> > -Xms256m -Xmx1024m
>> >    <Connector port="8080" protocol="HTTP/1.1"
>> >
>> >
>> compressableMimeType="text/html,text/xml,text/plain,text/javascript,application/json"
>> >                compression="off"
>> >                socketBuffer="8"
>> >                maxThreads="400"
>> >               connectionTimeout="20000"
>> >               redirectPort="8443" />
>> > Set session timeout in web.xml  to 1min
>> > java version "1.6.0_29"
>> > Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_29-b11-402-10M3527)
>> > Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.4-b02-402, mixed mode)
>> >
>> > Mac OS 10.6.8
>> > JMeter  and Tomcat on same machine
>> > No particular OS Tuning
>> > 8GO RAM
>> > No swap, nothing runnning except these 2
>> > Tomcat CPU around 5%
>> > Memory around 50 mo
>> >
>> > JVM editor/version for your JMeter? OS? OS Tuning (TCP tuning?)?
>> >>
>> >> Same config
>> > No TCP tuning
>> >
>> >> Can you post the jmx file?
>> >>
>> >> Will it be accepted on this list ?
>>
>> Best to create a Wiki page and attach the test file there.
>>
>> >
>> >> Milamber
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > It is not at all representative but it is a way for me to check
>> potential
>> >> > issues in JMeter and performance changes accross versions.
>> >> >
>> >> > I ran the test with 1500 VU using JMeter 2.5.1,  2.7 (current trunk)
>> with
>> >> > -Xmx512m, 10 minutes run and CSV output against a local Tomcat (I
>> restard
>> >> > tomcat between tests and control its health):
>> >> >
>> >> >    - I noticed that current trunk version behaves much better in
>> terms of
>> >> >    memory than 2.5.1 or 2.6:
>> >> >       - In 2.5.1 :
>> >> >       - GC activity is much higher with around 5 GC CPU peaks every 2
>> >> >          minutes,  and 20 FULL GC of 700 to 800 ms each
>> >> >          - Throughput: 97,71%
>> >> >          - Pauses : 13,69s
>> >> >          - Mém : 391M/min
>> >> >          - Full GC tend to be much more frequent at end of test
>> >> >          - 2.7:
>> >> >          -  no GC CPU peak, 1 FULL GC
>> >> >          - Throughput:98.54
>> >> >          - Pauses : 8.9s
>> >> >          - 1108m /min
>> >> >          - Summary:
>> >> >       - 25.1:
>> >> >          - 164676 samples in 605,1s
>> >> >          - 272,2/s
>> >> >          - Avg:    97
>> >> >          - 2.7:
>> >> >          - 165367 in 605.0s
>> >> >          - 273.3/s
>> >> >          - Avg:   228
>> >> >          - I also noticed results have a much better look:
>> >> >       - in 2.5.1, Transactions/s are around 300 / sec during 4
>> minutes,
>> >> >       then drop to 200/s, go up to 400/s , then down to 260/s and
>> >> > finally 200/sec
>> >> >       - in 2.7, Transactions stay around 300/sec
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Actions:
>> >> >
>> >> >    - I think it would be useful to have some reference application on
>> >> which
>> >> >    we could test JMeter behaviour
>> >> >    - What would the best place to put these comparisons ? wiki ? which
>> >> >    indicators should we put ?
>> >> >    - Further testing should be done against a richer application that
>> >> could
>> >> >    be deployed locally
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards
>> >> > Philippe
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Cordialement.
>> > Philippe Mouawad.
>>
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>
> --
> Cordialement.
> Philippe Mouawad.

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