On 19 May 2015 at 21:44, Philippe Mouawad <[email protected]> wrote: > Sebb, I don't share your opinion and think before anything is changed, > this needs to be submitted to vote or agreed upon by a certain number of > commiters.
AFAIK it is ASF policy and therefore not up for discussion. > Besides , writing "not relevant" to all my arguments is a bit upsetting for > me , but I will bypass this. > Anyway, I think this belongs to another thread that would be called for > example "About 3rd parties mention on JMeter documentation". > Agreed. Sorry, I should have started a new thread. > > Back to the initial idea, I still think the 2 UTG and STG should be > integrated. > Shmuel seems to agree with my idea. I think not in the end as he only wanted the duration feature which is already supported by JMeter. > Milamber seems to agree with my idea. > Andrei says it might be complex. > Vladimir says he does not use this kind of VUs based load tests. > sebb, I don't know what you think, can you clarify ? If there is a proven need for the enhancements, then I think we can consider enhancing JMeter. However, we will need to ensure that the code is available under the Apache License. Also that there are suitable unit tests and supporting documentation. > Other commiters are welcome to say what they think. > > Regards > Philippe > > > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:33 PM, sebb <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 19 May 2015 at 19:40, Philippe Mouawad <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > On Tuesday, May 19, 2015, sebb <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> On 19 May 2015 at 17:46, Vladimir Sitnikov <[email protected] >> >> <javascript:;>> wrote: >> >> >>That is very different from promoting specific plugin providers in the >> >> > JMeter documentation. >> >> > >> >> > As Philippe has already pointed out, j-p is already promoted right in >> >> > the documentation: >> >> > http://jmeter.apache.org/usermanual/boss.html#jmeter-plugins >> >> >> >> I had not noticed that. >> >> >> >> I think it is wrong and needs to be removed, along with any other 3rd >> >> party references. >> >> However the page can mention the Wiki. >> >> >> >> I don't agree with this. >> > Core jmeter "lacks" today of: >> > - Excellent reporting (until we implement one bugzilla for it) >> > - Continuous integration plugin (like maven one) >> > - Cloud open source ready solution >> >> That's not relevant to this issue. >> >> > >> > This page tells users which plugins to use for this in the Open source >> > field and for now only mentionned some kind of de facto standards. >> >> Which is wrong, because there are other plugins. >> We cannot favour one 3rd party over another. >> >> > Besides, All implementors of these plugins are regular contributors of >> > JMeter and I think they deserve a special mention. >> >> Not really relevant. >> >> > Furthermore there plugin follow jmeter releases and this is a good thing. >> >> Again, not relevant. >> >> > Regarding Wiki, today it is highly outdated in terms of content, >> >> Go fix it then ... >> >> > anybody can write anything meaning content is not really managed and >> controlled by >> > us. >> >> That's partly the point, because it allows any 3rd party producer to >> add a link to their product. >> >> But we do have control over the content. >> We can revert bad edits and revoke write access for people who don't play >> nice. >> >> > Finally I find it personaly rather very slow and not sexy at all. >> >> Again not relevant. >> >> > Felix has build a nice RWD website and I spent some time updating the >> docs. >> > All this to say that removing this page would kind of annoy me. >> >> I'm sorry about that, but the content can be added to the new >> JMeterPlugins page I just set up. >> I should have vetoed the original commit, but I'm afraid I overlooked it. >> >> > I think JMeter has a nice community that we need to preserve and make >> > bigger, wether open source (not only Apache) or even commercial(which is >> > not against Apache policy from my understanding). >> >> Fine, but we still cannot favour some 3rd parties over others. >> >> > We are all aware that we have a huge work to do on JMeter and the more we >> > are the better it is. >> >> Again not relevant. >> >> > Regards >> > Philippe >> > >> > >> >> Vladimir >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Cordialement. >> > Philippe Mouawad. >> > > > > -- > Cordialement. > Philippe Mouawad.
