+1 for sending out the summary for sure. Another option is IRC in which I know we could use ASF bot to record and report the history =)
- Henry On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < [email protected]> wrote: > that would be great so long as we can summarize the results of the > hangout to the list. > > Thanks Henry > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > Chief Architect > Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 > Email: [email protected] > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS) > Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Henry Saputra <[email protected]> > Reply-To: "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, March 14, 2016 at 11:53 AM > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: ApacheCon 2016 and Joshua > > >I will actually be at the Apache Big Data, I think it is happening before > >ApacheCon. > >If anyone also coming for that conference, definitely looking forward to > >meet. > > > >Would love to meet to what's next for Joshua, especially under ASF. > > > >My current interest is similar to what Matt mentioned, to replace Moses > >components as independent distribution/ release. > > > >Maybe we could do Google hangout to every 2-weeks to sync up on progress > >and community? > > > >- Henry > > > >On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < > >[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> awesome sounds like critical mass is happening for Joshua meet up > >> at ApacheCon. My own schedule is in flux - if I come it may only be > >> for a day so I’ll keep the troops posted. > >> > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > >> Chief Architect > >> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) > >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > >> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 > >> Email: [email protected] > >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >> Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS) > >> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department > >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > >> WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/ > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Tom Barber <[email protected]> > >> Reply-To: "[email protected]" > >> <[email protected]> > >> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016 at 8:34 AM > >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: ApacheCon 2016 and Joshua > >> > >> >I'm off to ApacheCon, but I'm far less interesting. I don't pretend to > >> >understand how any of it works, but as lewis will explain, I like > >>platform > >> >evangalism, demoing tech to "non standard" users and other bits and > >> >pieces. > >> >Plus I can code a bit if someone points me in the right direction :) > >> > > >> >From a personal perspective I find the tech interesting which is half > >>the > >> >reason I threw my hat in the ring, from an employment perspective, > >>some of > >> >my "business" clients would find "offline" translation that doesn't > >>rely > >> >on > >> >big vendor API's useful, also we have done work with the UK Armed > >>Forces > >> >who could do with this type of stuff for translation of intelligence > >> >material gathered from the field and requiring processing. > >> > > >> >Tom > >> > > >> >On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Matt Post <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Whoa! Lewis, can you give some more detail on this talk, what you > >> >> proposed, and what you plan to talk about? > >> >> > >> >> I haven't ever been to ApacheCon, but am interested in going. I don't > >> >>have > >> >> much of a feel for what motivates folks outside the academic research > >> >> community, and that would be good to have in laying out projects that > >> >>might > >> >> interest people. > >> >> > >> >> Regarding those project, I have a number of them. Perhaps it would be > >> >> useful to flesh them out with some more detail, and perhaps post > >>them, > >> >>for > >> >> those who are interested. First, with respect to Tommaso's question, > >>the > >> >> following: > >> >> > >> >> - Use cases. I'd really like to push machine translation as a black > >>box, > >> >> where people can download and use models, not caring how they work, > >>and > >> >> building on top of them. I think this could be transformative. I've > >>just > >> >> added to Joshua the ability to add, store, and manage custom phrasal > >> >> translation rules, which would let people take a model and add their > >>own > >> >> translations on top of it, perhaps correcting mistakes as they > >>encounter > >> >> them. There's a JSON API for it (undocumented). > >> >> > >> >> Building this up would also require pulling together lots of > >>different > >> >> test sets, evaluating changes, and so on. > >> >> > >> >> - Neural nets. This is a huge research area. I think the advantages > >>are > >> >> that it could enable releasing models that are much smaller. > >>However, on > >> >> the down side, it's not clear what the best way to integrate these > >> >>models > >> >> into Joshua is. Fully neural attention models would require > >> >>re-architecting > >> >> Joshua, as they are essentially a new paradigm. Adding neural > >> >>components as > >> >> feature functions that interact with the existing decoding algorithm > >> >>would > >> >> be an intermediate step. > >> >> > >> >> For other projects, I'd love: > >> >> > >> >> - Better documentation, developer and end-user (probably I need to > >> >>write a > >> >> lot of this; if nothing else, it would be hugely useful to me in > >>terms > >> >>of > >> >> prioritizing to know that people want it) > >> >> > >> >> - Rewriting certain components. The tuning modules, in particular, > >>are a > >> >> real mess, and should be synthesized and improved. > >> >> > >> >> - Replacing Moses components. Joshua can call out to Moses to build > >> >>phrase > >> >> tables; it would be nice to get rid of this (and wouldn't be that > >>hard) > >> >> with our own Java implementations. It would also be good to add a > >> >> lexicalized distortion model to the phrase-based decoder. > >> >> > >> >> matt > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Mar 14, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Lewis John Mcgibbney < > >> >> [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > Hi Kellen, > >> >> > I'll be there for sure. I actually had a talk accepted which is an > >> >>entire > >> >> > overview of Joshua and will probably touch on what the roadmap is > >> >>through > >> >> > incubation and beyond. > >> >> > In short I look forward to tagging up with you and any others are > >>Ho > >> >>will > >> >> > be there/we can interest in the project. > >> >> > A side note here is that more projects and talks at ApacheCon are > >> >> becoming > >> >> > increasingly relevant for science and healthcare so I hope we can > >>do a > >> >> real > >> >> > justice to Joshua by undertaking a driven community building effort > >> >> > @ApacheCon. > >> >> > This being said, let's hash out here some objectives, must haves, > >> >>would > >> >> > likes, roadmap, etc if you like. > >> >> > Thanks for brining this topic up. > >> >> > Lewis > >> >> > > >> >> > On Monday, March 14, 2016, Tommaso Teofili > >><[email protected] > >> > > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> Hi Kellen, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I won't be at ApacheCon unfortunately, however your idea sounds > >>good > >> >>if > >> >> >> there's anyone else joining. > >> >> >> Perhaps we can also discuss some of the topics you mention here on > >> >>the > >> >> >> list, and maybe that would be of help for f2f chats too. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I'd particularly interested in discussing: > >> >> >> - use cases > >> >> >> - ideas around usage of neural networks for MT > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Regards, > >> >> >> Tommaso > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Il giorno lun 14 mar 2016 alle ore 12:30 kellen sunderland < > >> >> >> [email protected] <javascript:;>> ha scritto: > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> Hello Joshua fans, > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> I was wondering how many Joshua/Apache folks are going to be at > >> >> ApacheCon > >> >> >>> in May. I was hoping if there's enough of us we could get > >>together > >> >>and > >> >> >>> chat about development ideas for Joshua, discuss each others use > >> >>cases, > >> >> >>> etc. I know that I for one would love to sync up on how the > >> >> development > >> >> >>> model for the project will work in the future. Maybe ApacheCon > >> >>would > >> >> be > >> >> >> a > >> >> >>> good opportunity to chat face to face. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> -Kellen Sunderland > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > *Lewis* > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >
