I'm up for a hangout. Can I suggest next week sometime? Say, Wednesday at 2 PM EST? If that doesn't work, we can do a when2meet or something to see what people's availabilities are.
> On Mar 14, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Henry Saputra <[email protected]> wrote: > > +1 for sending out the summary for sure. > > Another option is IRC in which I know we could use ASF bot to record and > report the history =) > > - Henry > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> that would be great so long as we can summarize the results of the >> hangout to the list. >> >> Thanks Henry >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >> Chief Architect >> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 >> Email: [email protected] >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS) >> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >> WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/ >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Henry Saputra <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: "[email protected]" >> <[email protected]> >> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016 at 11:53 AM >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: ApacheCon 2016 and Joshua >> >>> I will actually be at the Apache Big Data, I think it is happening before >>> ApacheCon. >>> If anyone also coming for that conference, definitely looking forward to >>> meet. >>> >>> Would love to meet to what's next for Joshua, especially under ASF. >>> >>> My current interest is similar to what Matt mentioned, to replace Moses >>> components as independent distribution/ release. >>> >>> Maybe we could do Google hangout to every 2-weeks to sync up on progress >>> and community? >>> >>> - Henry >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> awesome sounds like critical mass is happening for Joshua meet up >>>> at ApacheCon. My own schedule is in flux - if I come it may only be >>>> for a day so I’ll keep the troops posted. >>>> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >>>> Chief Architect >>>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) >>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >>>> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 >>>> Email: [email protected] >>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS) >>>> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department >>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >>>> WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/ >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Tom Barber <[email protected]> >>>> Reply-To: "[email protected]" >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Monday, March 14, 2016 at 8:34 AM >>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: ApacheCon 2016 and Joshua >>>> >>>>> I'm off to ApacheCon, but I'm far less interesting. I don't pretend to >>>>> understand how any of it works, but as lewis will explain, I like >>>> platform >>>>> evangalism, demoing tech to "non standard" users and other bits and >>>>> pieces. >>>>> Plus I can code a bit if someone points me in the right direction :) >>>>> >>>>> From a personal perspective I find the tech interesting which is half >>>> the >>>>> reason I threw my hat in the ring, from an employment perspective, >>>> some of >>>>> my "business" clients would find "offline" translation that doesn't >>>> rely >>>>> on >>>>> big vendor API's useful, also we have done work with the UK Armed >>>> Forces >>>>> who could do with this type of stuff for translation of intelligence >>>>> material gathered from the field and requiring processing. >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Matt Post <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Whoa! Lewis, can you give some more detail on this talk, what you >>>>>> proposed, and what you plan to talk about? >>>>>> >>>>>> I haven't ever been to ApacheCon, but am interested in going. I don't >>>>>> have >>>>>> much of a feel for what motivates folks outside the academic research >>>>>> community, and that would be good to have in laying out projects that >>>>>> might >>>>>> interest people. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regarding those project, I have a number of them. Perhaps it would be >>>>>> useful to flesh them out with some more detail, and perhaps post >>>> them, >>>>>> for >>>>>> those who are interested. First, with respect to Tommaso's question, >>>> the >>>>>> following: >>>>>> >>>>>> - Use cases. I'd really like to push machine translation as a black >>>> box, >>>>>> where people can download and use models, not caring how they work, >>>> and >>>>>> building on top of them. I think this could be transformative. I've >>>> just >>>>>> added to Joshua the ability to add, store, and manage custom phrasal >>>>>> translation rules, which would let people take a model and add their >>>> own >>>>>> translations on top of it, perhaps correcting mistakes as they >>>> encounter >>>>>> them. There's a JSON API for it (undocumented). >>>>>> >>>>>> Building this up would also require pulling together lots of >>>> different >>>>>> test sets, evaluating changes, and so on. >>>>>> >>>>>> - Neural nets. This is a huge research area. I think the advantages >>>> are >>>>>> that it could enable releasing models that are much smaller. >>>> However, on >>>>>> the down side, it's not clear what the best way to integrate these >>>>>> models >>>>>> into Joshua is. Fully neural attention models would require >>>>>> re-architecting >>>>>> Joshua, as they are essentially a new paradigm. Adding neural >>>>>> components as >>>>>> feature functions that interact with the existing decoding algorithm >>>>>> would >>>>>> be an intermediate step. >>>>>> >>>>>> For other projects, I'd love: >>>>>> >>>>>> - Better documentation, developer and end-user (probably I need to >>>>>> write a >>>>>> lot of this; if nothing else, it would be hugely useful to me in >>>> terms >>>>>> of >>>>>> prioritizing to know that people want it) >>>>>> >>>>>> - Rewriting certain components. The tuning modules, in particular, >>>> are a >>>>>> real mess, and should be synthesized and improved. >>>>>> >>>>>> - Replacing Moses components. Joshua can call out to Moses to build >>>>>> phrase >>>>>> tables; it would be nice to get rid of this (and wouldn't be that >>>> hard) >>>>>> with our own Java implementations. It would also be good to add a >>>>>> lexicalized distortion model to the phrase-based decoder. >>>>>> >>>>>> matt >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Lewis John Mcgibbney < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Kellen, >>>>>>> I'll be there for sure. I actually had a talk accepted which is an >>>>>> entire >>>>>>> overview of Joshua and will probably touch on what the roadmap is >>>>>> through >>>>>>> incubation and beyond. >>>>>>> In short I look forward to tagging up with you and any others are >>>> Ho >>>>>> will >>>>>>> be there/we can interest in the project. >>>>>>> A side note here is that more projects and talks at ApacheCon are >>>>>> becoming >>>>>>> increasingly relevant for science and healthcare so I hope we can >>>> do a >>>>>> real >>>>>>> justice to Joshua by undertaking a driven community building effort >>>>>>> @ApacheCon. >>>>>>> This being said, let's hash out here some objectives, must haves, >>>>>> would >>>>>>> likes, roadmap, etc if you like. >>>>>>> Thanks for brining this topic up. >>>>>>> Lewis >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, March 14, 2016, Tommaso Teofili >>>> <[email protected] >>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Kellen, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I won't be at ApacheCon unfortunately, however your idea sounds >>>> good >>>>>> if >>>>>>>> there's anyone else joining. >>>>>>>> Perhaps we can also discuss some of the topics you mention here on >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> list, and maybe that would be of help for f2f chats too. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'd particularly interested in discussing: >>>>>>>> - use cases >>>>>>>> - ideas around usage of neural networks for MT >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Tommaso >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Il giorno lun 14 mar 2016 alle ore 12:30 kellen sunderland < >>>>>>>> [email protected] <javascript:;>> ha scritto: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Joshua fans, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I was wondering how many Joshua/Apache folks are going to be at >>>>>> ApacheCon >>>>>>>>> in May. I was hoping if there's enough of us we could get >>>> together >>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> chat about development ideas for Joshua, discuss each others use >>>>>> cases, >>>>>>>>> etc. I know that I for one would love to sync up on how the >>>>>> development >>>>>>>>> model for the project will work in the future. Maybe ApacheCon >>>>>> would >>>>>> be >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> good opportunity to chat face to face. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Kellen Sunderland >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> *Lewis* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>
