I think this is good news, in that it gives some time to develop a good
strategy before self-hosting anything.

In between contemplating my own wiki pain for my own projects, and tweeting
with @RichardConroy about why more people aren't using more JVM languages, I
really feel there is a void here that needs to be filled.  I also feel like
it needs a bit of a "big think" and don't expect it to be filled brilliantly
in days or weeks.  Kenai itself is/was a really good effort, and regardless
of whether it gets open sourced or emulated in a new solution, I think
there's room for something new.  I have yearnings!

- R

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Charles Oliver Nutter
<head...@headius.com>wrote:

> Ok, so there's been a change...
>
> I emailed Ted Farrell at Oracle to plead for Kenai source to be
> released. He explained that would be too difficult right now due to
> the license/code-vetting process require, which I understand. However,
> he also said that Kenai was not actually going to be shut down.
>
> Apparently, they want to actively make Kenai be the new java.net
> infrastructure! They have posted a clarification on http://kenai.com.
> So it seems like there was a miscommunication (or a change of heart),
> and projects won't actually need to migrate off Kenai if they don't
> want to (details of how they'll transparently migrate to java.net are
> unclear).
>
> We've already started moving some services off Kenai, unfortunately,
> and it may be best if we continue down that path. It would be nice to
> be completely self-managed, so no project site ever bumps us around
> again. But what do you all think?
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter
> <head...@headius.com> wrote:
> > Kenai.com is being shut down. Apparently the project itself will live
> > on for Oracle internal use, and may rise again as some kind of public
> > offering, but the kenai.com domain and all projects hosted there are
> > being discontinued. We need to migrate to something else.
> >
> > For source control, making a complete move to Github seems like it's
> > probably the simplest answer. We already maintain a mirror there, so
> > we just need to move any unmirrored branches and make the repository
> > switch.
> >
> > JIRA and mailing lists are still graciously hosted by Codehaus, so
> > there's no immediate danger to them. Good thing we never got around to
> > migrating them, I guess.
> >
> > The wiki will have to move again. Currently all the pages are still in
> > MediaWiki format, which Kenai supported. Our options are to migrate to
> > a regular MediaWiki, try to find a wiki package that supports
> > MediaWiki, or try to convert all content to another format.
> >
> > On the bright side, we can now aggregate everything directly under the
> > jruby.org domain, rather than having people pop out to kenai.com for
> > some services.
> >
> > - Charlie
> >
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