I'm starting to wonder if we should make ThreadMetadata follow the same
path as TaskMetadata and be converted to an interface + internal
implementation. What are your thoughts?


Thanks in advance,
Josep



On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 12:10 PM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io> wrote:

> Hi there,
> While looking closely at the classes affected by this change, I realized
> that ThreadMetadata has a reference in its public API to the soon to be
> deprecated TaskMetadata. For this reason, I updated the KIP to reflect that
> 2 more changes are needed for this KIP:
> ThreadMetadata:
> - Deprecate activeTasks() and standbyTasks()
> - Add getActiveTasks() and getStandbyTasks() that return the new Interface
> instead.
>
> I also wrote it on the KIP, but this thing crossed my mind, do we need to
> keep source compatibility for this particular change?
>
>
> I would be really grateful if you could provide any feedback on the KIP (
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/XIrOCg)
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 10:24 AM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io> wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>> I updated the KIP page with Sophie's feedback. As she already mentioned,
>> the intention would be to include this KIP in release 3.0.0 so we can avoid
>> a deprecation cycle for the getTaskID method introduced in KIP-740, I hope
>> I managed to capture this in the KIP description.
>>
>> Just adding the link again for convenience:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/XIrOCg
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 10:08 PM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sophie,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the feedback, I'll update the KIP tomorrow with your
>>> feedback. They are all good points, and you are right, my phrasing could be
>>> misleading.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 10:02 PM Sophie Blee-Goldman
>>> <sop...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the KIP! I'm on board with the overall proposal, just a few
>>>> comments:
>>>>
>>>> 1) The motivation section says
>>>>
>>>> TaskMetadata should have never been a class available for the general
>>>> > public, but more of an internal class
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> which is a bit misleading as it seems to imply that TaskMetadata itself
>>>> was
>>>> never meant to be part of the public API
>>>> at all. It might be better to phrase this as "TaskMetadata was never
>>>> intended to be a public class that a user might
>>>> need to instantiate, but rather an API for exposing metadata which is
>>>> better served as an interface" --- or something
>>>> to that effect.
>>>>
>>>> 2) You touch on this in a later section, but it would be good to call
>>>> out
>>>> directly in the *Public Interfaces* section that
>>>> you are proposing to remove the `public TaskId getTaskId()` method that
>>>> we
>>>> added in KIP-740. Also I just want to
>>>> note that to do so will require getting this KIP into 3.0, otherwise
>>>> we'll
>>>> need to go through a deprecation cycle for
>>>> that API. I don't anticipate this being a problem as KIP freeze is still
>>>> two weeks away, but it would be good to clarify.
>>>>
>>>> 3) nit: we should put the new internal implementation class under
>>>> the org.apache.kafka.streams.processor.internals
>>>> package instead of under org.apache.kafka.streams.internals. But this
>>>> is an
>>>> implementation detail and as such
>>>> doesn't need to be covered by the KIP in the first place.
>>>>
>>>> - Sophie
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 1:55 AM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I deliberately picked the most conservative approach of creating a new
>>>> > Interface, instead of transforming the current class into an
>>>> interface.
>>>> > Feedback is most welcome!
>>>> >
>>>> > Best,
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 10:26 AM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Hi there,
>>>> > > I would like to propose KIP-744, to introduce TaskMetadata as an
>>>> > > interface, to keep the its implementation as internal use.
>>>> > > This KIP can be seen as a spin-off of KIP-740.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/XIrOCg
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Best,
>>>> > > --
>>>> > >
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